Things not to say to an xj owner
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From: EAFB, SD
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Sorry for getting a little off-topic here, but IFS isn't always bad. Look up the Oshkosh Tak-4 independent suspension used on our military trucks. It works so good the government forced Force Protection (competitor of Oshkosh Defense) to buy them and put them on the RG31s in the field. No straight axle can compare to what we build. If you want to lift the vehicle to ungodly heights, sure it's easier to do with a straight axle, but if you want ride quality, independent suspension wins hands down, which is why I think Jeep's going to IFS. More people want ride quality and not to jack the crap out of it. Just my .02 

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From: Southern oregon
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 89 4.0l swap
Originally Posted by Northwoods Snowman
Sorry for getting a little off-topic here, but IFS isn't always bad. Look up the Oshkosh Tak-4 independent suspension used on our military trucks. It works so good the government forced Force Protection (competitor of Oshkosh Defense) to buy them and put them on the RG31s in the field. No straight axle can compare to what we build. If you want to lift the vehicle to ungodly heights, sure it's easier to do with a straight axle, but if you want ride quality, independent suspension wins hands down, which is why I think Jeep's going to IFS. More people want ride quality and not to jack the crap out of it. Just my .02

Originally Posted by Northwoods Snowman
Sorry for getting a little off-topic here, but IFS isn't always bad. Look up the Oshkosh Tak-4 independent suspension used on our military trucks. It works so good the government forced Force Protection (competitor of Oshkosh Defense) to buy them and put them on the RG31s in the field. No straight axle can compare to what we build. If you want to lift the vehicle to ungodly heights, sure it's easier to do with a straight axle, but if you want ride quality, independent suspension wins hands down, which is why I think Jeep's going to IFS. More people want ride quality and not to jack the crap out of it. Just my .02

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From: EAFB, SD
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
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From: Colorado
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L High Output
I'm sorry to say this cherokee people as I am one too. I work at an auto parts store and not everyone knows jeeps or cares about jeeps. So them saying is that a grand for 1991 give em a break. My co worker knows a lot about nissan's but not much about anything else. A guy walked in and said he needed a starter for a 88 trans am . (well there is no listing for a trans am in our computer) After searching on the computer for 2 minutes I went over and told him Firebird in our computer is a trans am..firebird encompassed trans am. So I will say give em a break. But EVERYONE of my co-workers calls me the jeep guy there, and any jeep related questions ALL come to me.
XJ 4 Lyfe !!
and same work. true story!!!!
cowoker: Jeeps are crap, your jeep sucks...Subarus are better
Me: Jeeps will go places your subaru will never go, and I still have a bigger motor
Coworker: My subaru is faster, more nimble, and more valuable then your jeep.
Me: (Getting annoyed).. That's why your subaru is in your drive way not moving cus your $1,000 clutch is blown, and your only way to get to work is with your girlfriends JEEP, while mine has never failed to get me to work..(Added on to this) and if my cluthc blew it only costs $150, and every thing on my jeep is 10x cheaper then your $8,900 driveway ornament.
He walked off after that.
Amen
XJ 4 Lyfe !!
and same work. true story!!!!
cowoker: Jeeps are crap, your jeep sucks...Subarus are better
Me: Jeeps will go places your subaru will never go, and I still have a bigger motor
Coworker: My subaru is faster, more nimble, and more valuable then your jeep.
Me: (Getting annoyed).. That's why your subaru is in your drive way not moving cus your $1,000 clutch is blown, and your only way to get to work is with your girlfriends JEEP, while mine has never failed to get me to work..(Added on to this) and if my cluthc blew it only costs $150, and every thing on my jeep is 10x cheaper then your $8,900 driveway ornament.
He walked off after that.
Amen
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From: Converse, Texas
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
I'm sorry to say this cherokee people as I am one too. I work at an auto parts store and not everyone knows jeeps or cares about jeeps. So them saying is that a grand for 1991 give em a break. My co worker knows a lot about nissan's but not much about anything else. A guy walked in and said he needed a starter for a 88 trans am . (well there is no listing for a trans am in our computer) After searching on the computer for 2 minutes I went over and told him Firebird in our computer is a trans am..firebird encompassed trans am. So I will say give em a break. But EVERYONE of my co-workers calls me the jeep guy there, and any jeep related questions ALL come to me.
XJ 4 Lyfe !!
and same work. true story!!!!
cowoker: Jeeps are crap, your jeep sucks...Subarus are better
Me: Jeeps will go places your subaru will never go, and I still have a bigger motor
Coworker: My subaru is faster, more nimble, and more valuable then your jeep.
Me: (Getting annoyed).. That's why your subaru is in your drive way not moving cus your $1,000 clutch is blown, and your only way to get to work is with your girlfriends JEEP, while mine has never failed to get me to work..(Added on to this) and if my cluthc blew it only costs $150, and every thing on my jeep is 10x cheaper then your $8,900 driveway ornament.
He walked off after that.
Amen
XJ 4 Lyfe !!
and same work. true story!!!!
cowoker: Jeeps are crap, your jeep sucks...Subarus are better
Me: Jeeps will go places your subaru will never go, and I still have a bigger motor
Coworker: My subaru is faster, more nimble, and more valuable then your jeep.
Me: (Getting annoyed).. That's why your subaru is in your drive way not moving cus your $1,000 clutch is blown, and your only way to get to work is with your girlfriends JEEP, while mine has never failed to get me to work..(Added on to this) and if my cluthc blew it only costs $150, and every thing on my jeep is 10x cheaper then your $8,900 driveway ornament.
He walked off after that.
Amen
My mom's Subaru is having stupid problems after problem, currently its the cam position sensor, and she is 200 miles away from here. And she always says I should drive something nicer and more reliable. Since I have owned it, I have only had to replace a starter, o2 sensor, and a water pump. She has gotten at least $5k in repairs from the dealer, not including the time she crashed it, hail damage, and a tree branch falling on it.
I used to like Subarus. But that Forester is a POS.
I used to like Subarus. But that Forester is a POS.
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From: Southern oregon
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 89 4.0l swap
Originally Posted by cdawall
kind of most of the older/cheaper ones that are still 4wd use TTB's built by ford. don't really know if this is true blue IFS.
thats a camburg kit and quite freaking awesome.
thats a camburg kit and quite freaking awesome.
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From: Oregon
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: i6 HO
Something that really made me mad was
i was looking up some parts for my jeep and came up with the usual
Year (94) make (jeep) Went to this... Grand then below it said smaller model
Also my friend keeps telling me " dude you gotta straight axle your jeep"
all i keep saying is "your a tard, mines already straight axled"
he drives a yota....
i was looking up some parts for my jeep and came up with the usual
Year (94) make (jeep) Went to this... Grand then below it said smaller model

Also my friend keeps telling me " dude you gotta straight axle your jeep"
all i keep saying is "your a tard, mines already straight axled" he drives a yota....
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From: ellington, missouri
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l inline 6cyl
as of lately...why not trade it for another car. (first off it's not a car, second, hell no)
you don't need that lift kit (that's right, i don't need it, i WANT it)
my fiances brother: "why doesn't he just give it too me? (cuz your not worthy, the only thing your worthy of is
).
you don't need that lift kit (that's right, i don't need it, i WANT it)
my fiances brother: "why doesn't he just give it too me? (cuz your not worthy, the only thing your worthy of is
).
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From: Frederick, Maryland
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I-6 High output
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From: West Bloomfield,MI
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L, CAI, Edelbrock Breather, Optima Yellowtop
I hear this one a lot: "Your car is so old".
-First off, its not a car it's a JEEP. Second, it's a 96 so it's not eligible for historical vehicle plates yet. The only reason it looks ancient is due to the fact that it was never facelifted during the period of 84-96.
-First off, its not a car it's a JEEP. Second, it's a 96 so it's not eligible for historical vehicle plates yet. The only reason it looks ancient is due to the fact that it was never facelifted during the period of 84-96.



