Hmm... I just read a news article saying that Obama demanded avg of 56 mpg from all the the auto makers by 2025. Interestingly enough, with the exception of Mercedes Benz, all the auto makers backed the new demand.

My question is, will Jeeps be able to meet this demand while maintaining satisfactory Jeep capabilities?

My 96 XJ gets 20 mpg at best, and WJ,TJ,JKs are all in the same line.

It's 2011 now, and we have 14 years until 2025. I guess much can change between now and then. Maybe Jeeps will get a good diesel engine, turbo charger, stop and go, better aerodynamics, etc... in 14 years.

But dang.. 56mpg is not a joke

Do you all think Jeeps will make the demand?
Do you think you'll still be driving your loved XJs in 2025 ?

 

Does it really matter, hopefully Obama won't be in office after this term.

 

Right on!

 

X3! maybe they'll count jeep as part of Chrysler.

 

ya. i'd still driving mine in 2025. that's if she can hold up to it and i dont roll it over. now i get bout 5-10mi mpg.

 

It's all rhetoric. It's easy to say in 15 years we're going to increase fuel mileage to 56mpg, but we all know that A, the car companies will go after getting that number down with everything they've got in D.C. B, the CAFE numbers are across the board for the car companies anyways. As long as they sell enough of these Volts, Leafs, and Prii (really, that is what Toyota says we should call more than one Prius), the numbers will swell up and we'll still be able to buy vehicles we want. What I'd be more concerned about is if they try to hit us with a higher base number for the "gas guzzler tax," and the cost of fuel in 2025.

By the time 2025 rolls around that number will probably be a lot closer to 45mpg than 56. Aim higher than you really think is possible and settle for some improvement. That's the name of the game in D.C.

 

Any thing is possible theyres new technology being created every day well just have to wait and see if we live that long were going to die in 2012 anyway

 

Bingo.

 

Way to go!

 

I'd love a hybrid jeep. In time hybrids will be more reliable and have better torque at a cheaper price. Imagine wheeling all dqy and only using a couple of gallons of $15/gal of gas! Lets face it, fuel as we know it is going to become more expensive as supply diminishes. If jeep doesn't think ahead, the brand could be lost forever! Imagine a hybrid diesel jeep!!!!

 

If they can pull it off I'll still be driving mine, if it's still around. But I've heard more than a few times that the Prius causes more damage to the environment making it than it prevents.

 

I don't know about more, but it merely changes where the damage is from/done. Those batteries aren't just gonna magically disappear once they reach the end of their useful life. On top of that, a lot of the metals in those batteries aren't what you'd call abundant in the world.

Personally, I think the hybrids are a complete waste of time. The initial expense is going to seriously impact any cost savings you may get from the higher fuel mileage and I'm still concerned about long-term reliability.

Long-term, the full electrics are where you are going to see the biggest strides. For commuter cars they are going to be the best value in the coming years. For people who drive <20 miles to work and <20 miles home every day, those are going to work perfectly. On top of that, the electricity being produced on a powerplant scale is substantially more efficient than gasoline on a per car basis. Around me, the metro Detroit area, GM is putting charging stations all around town to plug Volts into. One of the Meijer's by me has two charging stations that you can plug right into while shopping.