All wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?
Only thing i ever had full time 4wd was a blazer i had,Honestly only thing different about it was being harder on gas then my dads 4x4 s10 he had.I rather have part time so i can shift it how i want it.Now if we are talking awd in a yuppie suv/car some of those owners still can't drive in the snow lol.In snow ground clearance and driving slow works don't matter fwd rwd 4x4 etc etc its more driver then car.In the rain and slick roads slow down and give other cars more room.
thatXJguy...
Yes, you can break the tires loose in the rain in 2wd. My 2.5 will do that too. But my pickup will break all 4 loose in 4 wheel drive on a wet road, that still doesn't mean I suddenly need to put it in 4 wheel drive for rain. If you know how to drive, you won't be spinning the tires in 2wd in rain. Just like if you know how to drive, ABS, traction control, stability control, and all that other crap is just about useless, and I feel safer without any of that.
Yes, you can break the tires loose in the rain in 2wd. My 2.5 will do that too. But my pickup will break all 4 loose in 4 wheel drive on a wet road, that still doesn't mean I suddenly need to put it in 4 wheel drive for rain. If you know how to drive, you won't be spinning the tires in 2wd in rain. Just like if you know how to drive, ABS, traction control, stability control, and all that other crap is just about useless, and I feel safer without any of that.
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thatXJguy...
Yes, you can break the tires loose in the rain in 2wd. My 2.5 will do that too. But my pickup will break all 4 loose in 4 wheel drive on a wet road, that still doesn't mean I suddenly need to put it in 4 wheel drive for rain. If you know how to drive, you won't be spinning the tires in 2wd in rain. Just like if you know how to drive, ABS, traction control, stability control, and all that other crap is just about useless, and I feel safer without any of that.
Yes, you can break the tires loose in the rain in 2wd. My 2.5 will do that too. But my pickup will break all 4 loose in 4 wheel drive on a wet road, that still doesn't mean I suddenly need to put it in 4 wheel drive for rain. If you know how to drive, you won't be spinning the tires in 2wd in rain. Just like if you know how to drive, ABS, traction control, stability control, and all that other crap is just about useless, and I feel safer without any of that.
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So back to the OP...
I'm a believer in 4wd because you have selection over how you want to drive. My 02 wj has full time, part time, and 4lo. I've driven a few AWD's in the snow and rain up in MD and PA as well as my dad's old Chevy which I've put in 4HI in some of the heavier snow. From MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE my dads Chevy did way better than my moms AWD Mercedes SUV. The Mercedes handled better 99% of the time with the AWD but that's probably just because it was a Benz compared to a 92 Chevy pick up :P
But if you're ever "stuck" off-road even on the side of the interstate because you lost traction in the rain I'd rather be able to just drop the SOB in 4lo and pop right out
I'm a believer in 4wd because you have selection over how you want to drive. My 02 wj has full time, part time, and 4lo. I've driven a few AWD's in the snow and rain up in MD and PA as well as my dad's old Chevy which I've put in 4HI in some of the heavier snow. From MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE my dads Chevy did way better than my moms AWD Mercedes SUV. The Mercedes handled better 99% of the time with the AWD but that's probably just because it was a Benz compared to a 92 Chevy pick up :P
But if you're ever "stuck" off-road even on the side of the interstate because you lost traction in the rain I'd rather be able to just drop the SOB in 4lo and pop right out
The only thing I have ever had with traction control got much better traction in all conditions when it was turned off.
And I've had many bad experiences with full time 4 wheel drive.
That's just my opinions, based on my own personal experience. There are reasons why I hate all those things.
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242 gives you the choice, 241 doesn't.
It's funny hearing the views from the US because UK land rover owners look down on Jeeps for even having a 2WD option. They do 4WD all the time and "difflock" (Part Time in Jeep) for offroad.
Both views are a bit weird imo, you're better off choosing what you want according to what you're likely to be doing.
It's funny hearing the views from the US because UK land rover owners look down on Jeeps for even having a 2WD option. They do 4WD all the time and "difflock" (Part Time in Jeep) for offroad.
Both views are a bit weird imo, you're better off choosing what you want according to what you're likely to be doing.
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242 gives you the choice, 241 doesn't.
It's funny hearing the views from the US because UK land rover owners look down on Jeeps for even having a 2WD option. They do 4WD all the time and "difflock" (Part Time in Jeep) for offroad.
Both views are a bit weird imo, you're better off choosing what you want according to what you're likely to be doing.
It's funny hearing the views from the US because UK land rover owners look down on Jeeps for even having a 2WD option. They do 4WD all the time and "difflock" (Part Time in Jeep) for offroad.
Both views are a bit weird imo, you're better off choosing what you want according to what you're likely to be doing.
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I would love to have full time. Winters suck here and roads can be fine and then my sphincter becomes the size of a grain of salt anytime I hit a snow drift or ice patch in 2wd. And yeah, the wives and girlfriends thing is a huge factor too. I see a swap to a 242 in the future
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I would love to have full time. Winters suck here and roads can be fine and then my sphincter becomes the size of a grain of salt anytime I hit a snow drift or ice patch in 2wd. And yeah, the wives and girlfriends thing is a huge factor too. I see a swap to a 242 in the future

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