Project Heep'n AK
Beach Bum
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From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
7-leaf springs with military wrap, plus coil shocks? Should be firm ride..
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
7-leaf springs with military wrap, plus coil shocks? Should be firm ride..
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Lil present came in the mail today.. Turns out they sent me a 52" not a 50", so I'll have to modify the brackets a lil. I expected to do some mods since they are for a curved, but it is what it is not that I'm complaining
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
I've never run em lol.. But when ya take a corner at 25 on 3 wheels, something a lil more sturdy is needed not that I'm complaining. The lean comes more from the front one being gone than the rear one lol.. Should be fun with the long arms however haha
Its especially scary when you're aired down to 15psi to run trails and coming back, a car takes a turn too wide and you have to swerve to miss him. No swaybar with the low psi..... Scary situation
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Haha no kidding!! Riding my winter tires (29s) with no sway bars and Lincoln locked rear end around a windy road. Throw in the death wobble and you've got some fun.. Love the first time riders in the heeps reaction, lol priceless
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Swapping in a 95+ steering column to replace the mess that is the previous owners wiring setup.. Yes my wipers are on a switch and yes I have to superglue my turn signal lever in about once a month...
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From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
My observations after lifting 4.5" and wanting better handling at higher off-road speeds, 20-50 mph.
1) With a soft suspension similar to stock (Skyjacker soft-ride), the rear swaybar adds noticeable improvement with handling in turns and on highway. Problem is, if the links are extended to keep angle correct, links contact tire sidewall of tire.
2) Switching to 7-leaf springs made a large improvement, reduced body roll in turns and when off camber, also made highway speed feel much more stable and secure. My rig used to lean or tilt when off camber, now it is solid even with 100 pounds on roof. (picture)
3) Coil spring rate has a large effect on amount of sway up front.
4) Prothane coil spring inserts, although not intended for reduced sway, do help in the more radical maneuvers. Also adds some progressiveness at the end of coil spring travel. (pic)
I suggest test driving with the 7-leafs and the same shocks you had on before, note the difference then go from there.
The coil-over springs should be valved according to its own spring and the leaf springs. If set up just for its own spring, dampening will be insufficient.
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
I have experimented with swaybars front and rear, and 'tuning' the suspension with different leaf packs, number of leafs, coil springs, etc.
My observations after lifting 4.5" and wanting better handling at higher off-road speeds, 20-50 mph.
1) With a soft suspension similar to stock (Skyjacker soft-ride), the rear swaybar adds noticeable improvement with handling in turns and on highway. Problem is, if the links are extended to keep angle correct, links contact tire sidewall of tire.
2) Switching to 7-leaf springs made a large improvement, reduced body roll in turns and when off camber, also made highway speed feel much more stable and secure. My rig used to lean or tilt when off camber, now it is solid even with 100 pounds on roof. (picture)
3) Coil spring rate has a large effect on amount of sway up front.
4) Prothane coil spring inserts, although not intended for reduced sway, do help in the more radical maneuvers. Also adds some progressiveness at the end of coil spring travel. (pic)
I suggest test driving with the 7-leafs and the same shocks you had on before, note the difference then go from there.
The coil-over springs should be valved according to its own spring and the leaf springs. If set up just for its own spring, dampening will be insufficient.
My observations after lifting 4.5" and wanting better handling at higher off-road speeds, 20-50 mph.
1) With a soft suspension similar to stock (Skyjacker soft-ride), the rear swaybar adds noticeable improvement with handling in turns and on highway. Problem is, if the links are extended to keep angle correct, links contact tire sidewall of tire.
2) Switching to 7-leaf springs made a large improvement, reduced body roll in turns and when off camber, also made highway speed feel much more stable and secure. My rig used to lean or tilt when off camber, now it is solid even with 100 pounds on roof. (picture)
3) Coil spring rate has a large effect on amount of sway up front.
4) Prothane coil spring inserts, although not intended for reduced sway, do help in the more radical maneuvers. Also adds some progressiveness at the end of coil spring travel. (pic)
I suggest test driving with the 7-leafs and the same shocks you had on before, note the difference then go from there.
The coil-over springs should be valved according to its own spring and the leaf springs. If set up just for its own spring, dampening will be insufficient.
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Lift is done! 6" front 5" rear. Hope to get this thing started soon so I can test her out! Gotta figure out my track bar situation til I have the $$ to order an adjustable one.. And then I'll be picking up a 44/9 here pretty soon
gonna get the heep sitting pretty on 3/4 tons and 37s.
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
New blinkers came in.. Looks much better than the broken one haha! Got the 50" mounted and still needs to be wired along with rock lights. Replaced the ballast resistor on the drivers side fender. Hopefully swapping the columns fixes the ignition problem, and then it's onto diagnosing the weak spark issue causing a no start
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
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