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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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7-leaf springs with military wrap, plus coil shocks? Should be firm ride..
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
7-leaf springs with military wrap, plus coil shocks? Should be firm ride..
My concern would be the chassis at top of shock. That extra force of a coil spring could deform the sheet metal. IronRock offers a cross member for rear shock mounting, might work for this also.
I'm hoping it'll firm up the ride since I'm not running front or rear sway bars.. Causes the heep to lean all over haha. I'll have to look into that a lil, thanks!
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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Lil present came in the mail today.. Turns out they sent me a 52" not a 50", so I'll have to modify the brackets a lil. I expected to do some mods since they are for a curved, but it is what it is not that I'm complaining
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 12:38 AM
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I want one. And on the sway bar subject.... I have never had one on my jeep. I don't condone not having one but I drive my jeep daily and never had an issue
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 93_xjcherokee
I want one. And on the sway bar subject.... I have never had one on my jeep. I don't condone not having one but I drive my jeep daily and never had an issue
I've never run em lol.. But when ya take a corner at 25 on 3 wheels, something a lil more sturdy is needed not that I'm complaining. The lean comes more from the front one being gone than the rear one lol.. Should be fun with the long arms however haha
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 12:46 AM
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Its especially scary when you're aired down to 15psi to run trails and coming back, a car takes a turn too wide and you have to swerve to miss him. No swaybar with the low psi..... Scary situation
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 93_xjcherokee
Its especially scary when you're aired down to 15psi to run trails and coming back, a car takes a turn too wide and you have to swerve to miss him. No swaybar with the low psi..... Scary situation
Haha no kidding!! Riding my winter tires (29s) with no sway bars and Lincoln locked rear end around a windy road. Throw in the death wobble and you've got some fun.. Love the first time riders in the heeps reaction, lol priceless
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 04:39 AM
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Swapping in a 95+ steering column to replace the mess that is the previous owners wiring setup.. Yes my wipers are on a switch and yes I have to superglue my turn signal lever in about once a month...
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 2tone92
I've never run em lol.. But when ya take a corner at 25 on 3 wheels, something a lil more sturdy is needed not that I'm complaining. The lean comes more from the front one being gone than the rear one lol.. Should be fun with the long arms however haha
I have experimented with swaybars front and rear, and 'tuning' the suspension with different leaf packs, number of leafs, coil springs, etc.
My observations after lifting 4.5" and wanting better handling at higher off-road speeds, 20-50 mph.

1) With a soft suspension similar to stock (Skyjacker soft-ride), the rear swaybar adds noticeable improvement with handling in turns and on highway. Problem is, if the links are extended to keep angle correct, links contact tire sidewall of tire.

2) Switching to 7-leaf springs made a large improvement, reduced body roll in turns and when off camber, also made highway speed feel much more stable and secure. My rig used to lean or tilt when off camber, now it is solid even with 100 pounds on roof. (picture)

3) Coil spring rate has a large effect on amount of sway up front.

4) Prothane coil spring inserts, although not intended for reduced sway, do help in the more radical maneuvers. Also adds some progressiveness at the end of coil spring travel. (pic)

I suggest test driving with the 7-leafs and the same shocks you had on before, note the difference then go from there.
The coil-over springs should be valved according to its own spring and the leaf springs. If set up just for its own spring, dampening will be insufficient.
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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
I have experimented with swaybars front and rear, and 'tuning' the suspension with different leaf packs, number of leafs, coil springs, etc.
My observations after lifting 4.5" and wanting better handling at higher off-road speeds, 20-50 mph.

1) With a soft suspension similar to stock (Skyjacker soft-ride), the rear swaybar adds noticeable improvement with handling in turns and on highway. Problem is, if the links are extended to keep angle correct, links contact tire sidewall of tire.

2) Switching to 7-leaf springs made a large improvement, reduced body roll in turns and when off camber, also made highway speed feel much more stable and secure. My rig used to lean or tilt when off camber, now it is solid even with 100 pounds on roof. (picture)

3) Coil spring rate has a large effect on amount of sway up front.

4) Prothane coil spring inserts, although not intended for reduced sway, do help in the more radical maneuvers. Also adds some progressiveness at the end of coil spring travel. (pic)

I suggest test driving with the 7-leafs and the same shocks you had on before, note the difference then go from there.
The coil-over springs should be valved according to its own spring and the leaf springs. If set up just for its own spring, dampening will be insufficient.
I have yet to get it out for a test drive, but the coils are adjustable in the rear so I can fine tune them to better help on and off road. I'll have to look into it real closely to get everything finetuned regardless. As for high speed wheeling, in Ak you're lucky if you get above 15mph. Most of its slow crawling or technical patches mixed in with some mud over rocks and such. Used to run 35s on a 2 in lift with terrible back spring so I've learned to adjust my driving techniques as to not blow out a rear tire haha! However my old truck loved the silt dunes with no sways and an upgraded rear suspension, rode like a pre runner and definitely wasn't built like one haha
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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 01:18 AM
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Enough chat. More progress pics. Lol
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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 03:46 AM
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Lift is done! 6" front 5" rear. Hope to get this thing started soon so I can test her out! Gotta figure out my track bar situation til I have the $$ to order an adjustable one.. And then I'll be picking up a 44/9 here pretty soon gonna get the heep sitting pretty on 3/4 tons and 37s.
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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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New blinkers came in.. Looks much better than the broken one haha! Got the 50" mounted and still needs to be wired along with rock lights. Replaced the ballast resistor on the drivers side fender. Hopefully swapping the columns fixes the ignition problem, and then it's onto diagnosing the weak spark issue causing a no start
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Old Oct 23, 2015 | 12:08 AM
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Looking good man
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Old Oct 23, 2015 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 93_xjcherokee
Looking good man
Thanks surprised how bright it is for such a cheap bar haha! Hopefully it holds up, but only time will tell
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