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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:20 AM
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Does the fiberglass work? Obviously welding is the best thing. But is fiberglass a permanent solution? I've read that the vibrations eventually break the bonds of anything we try to fix it with besides metal
This is true about fiberglass to metal. Epoxy can be more flexible. Glassing both sides of metal edge helps hold it together, rather than just over the top.
It may need minor repair every couple years, better than a big hole.
I have used roofing tar on a rust bucket jeep, but we won't go there.

If you use Bondo, try the lightweight stuff for filling large holes.

Defiantly check for further rot to make final judgement call on lifting. Often the floorpanels can look fine from underneath the jeep. But pull the carpet on passenger side and it can be a different story.
Also, I suggest looking underneath the rear cargo area carpet.

From underneath the jeep, use the handle end of a screwdriver or similar to knock/tap on floorboards and framerails. The sound will tell you where the rotten spots are, if any.
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
This is true about fiberglass to metal. Epoxy can be more flexible. Glassing both sides of metal edge helps hold it together, rather than just over the top. It may need minor repair every couple years, better than a big hole. I have used roofing tar on a rust bucket jeep, but we won't go there. If you use Bondo, try the lightweight stuff for filling large holes. Defiantly check for further rot to make final judgement call on lifting. Often the floorpanels can look fine from underneath the jeep. But pull the carpet on passenger side and it can be a different story. Also, I suggest looking underneath the rear cargo area carpet. From underneath the jeep, use the handle end of a screwdriver or similar to knock/tap on floorboards and framerails. The sound will tell you where the rotten spots are, if any.
what about deaf people?
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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what about deaf people?
Should still work, vibrations and the feel of rebound. Of course if your tool disappears into the jeep, found the problem.
Wear eye protection when doing this..
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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Should still work, vibrations and the feel of rebound. Of course if your tool disappears into the jeep, found the problem. Wear eye protection when doing this..
lol I do recall some of situations when the probe disappeared through
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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Double post.

Last edited by gunmetal_nightrider; Mar 22, 2015 at 03:05 PM.
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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I'll start banging around, see what I can find. Hopefully she just has the ranndom roof problems. We shall see.

SO, changed the oil, filter, air filter, oil pressure sensor (I'll get to that), and cleaned the IAC and throttle body a little.

After changin the oil and filter I turned the jeep on and saw I had no oil pressure. Strange because I had pressure when I drove into that garage.



Yep, dum dum broke the pressure sensor. $30 fix i hadnt planned on. Grabbed a side shot old vs new. Insides of the sensor in case you wanted to know. The kinda put it close doncha think? Its hard enough to get that dam filter out then they put that thing in the way.






Then we moved on to the throttle since I had high revs when shifting.
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Since I had the motivation we jumped into the trottle IAC...well at first we tackled the IAS lol. THOSE torx were held in with locktite....broke two wrenches. F%ck!










THEN we noticed there was no **** like the descriptiom said....so we got the ACTUAL IAC off. No pics of that...but heres a shot of the throttle.


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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Got the build sheet.

Sales Code Description
XJ Cloth Low-back Bucket Seats
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ADAP Light Group
APAS Monotone Paint
ARXP Country Decor Group
AWHP Power Equipment Group
BAUS 117 Amp Alternator
BCDS 500 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BGAS Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
CACP Low Back Bucket Seats
CBVP Cloth Door Trim Panel w/Map Pocket
CDBS Reclining Front Seats
CFMS Rear Fold w/Removable Cushion Seat
CGGS Traveling Inboard Seat Belt Buckle
CGWS Next Generation Front Air Bags
CKAS Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area
CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet
CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops
CKXS Plastic Liftgate Trim Panel
CLEP Front & Rear Floor Mats
CSAP Spare Tire Cover
CSRS Passenger Assist Handles
CSSS Lift Gate Assist Handle
CUFS Full Length Floor Console
DGB All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DGSS 4-Speed Automatic AW4 Transmission
DHAP Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNS Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DHSP Floor Mount Automatic Shift Lever
DJHS Dana M30/181MM Front Axle
DMDP 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio
DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle
EAAC All Engines
ERH 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine
GAL Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass
GEEP Deep Tint Sunscreen Liftgate Glass
GFA Rear Window Defroster
GNAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror
GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
GTS Power Heated Mirrors, Fold-Away
GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
GXMP Remote Keyless Entry
HAAP Air Conditioning
HGDS Deluxe Insulation Group
JAYP Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JBGP Instrument Panel Woodgrain Bezel
JCDS 100 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBP Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJAS Cigar Lighter
JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns
JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
JPAP Power Windows
JPBP Power Locks
JPS Power 6-Way Driver Seat
LAJS Headlamps On Warning Chimes
LBBP Courtesy Lamps
LBCS Glove Box Lamp
LCDP Map/Dome Reading Lamps
LDAP Underhood Lamp
LDBP Cargo Compartment Lamp
LHDP Headlamp Off Time Delay
LMAS Halogen Headlamps
LNJ Fog Lamps
LPSS CHMSL Lamp
MBPP Body Color Front Bumper
MBQP Body Color Rear Bumper w/Step Pads
MCAS Front Bumper Guards
MDAP Front License Plate Bracket
MFKP Body Color Grille
MHAS Black Windshield Moldings
MMCS Rear Qtr Solid Window Insert
MMGS Belt Moldings
MMKS Body Color Drip Trough Molding
MNAS Black Door Handles
MWGP Roof Rack
NAA Federal Emissions
NBKS EVAP Control System
NFAS 20 Gallon Fuel Tank
NHMP Speed Control
PQ7 Gunmetal Pearl Coat
QQ7S Gunmetal Pearl Coat
RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RAZ AM/FM Cassette Compact Disc Radio
RCDP 4 Speakers
RDDP Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS Power Steering
SCGP Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDAS Normal Duty Suspension
SHAS Front Stabilizer Bar
SHCS Rear Stabilizer Bar
SUAP Tilt Steering Column
TBCS Compact Spare Tire
TBLS Inside Mounted Spare Tire
TRVP P225/70R15 Eagle GA OWL AS Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
WJ7P 15X7.0 Luxury Aluminum Wheels
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCYS Delete Remote Start System
XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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The negative effect of lift blocks. Flat or negative arch leaf springs.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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The negative effect of lift blocks. Flat or negative arch leaf springs.
Totally, I bet you're looking forward to putting on full leaf packs!
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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Totally, I bet you're looking forward to putting on full leaf packs!
I sure am! Im going to want to drive over traffic too im sure.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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Tore apart the cargo hatch area searching for rust from those corners. Well....i found it. If you guys havnt checked your hatch seal, might want to check that. Mine is torn.

















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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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It started raining while i was doin the rust search and i noticed my window seal is bad.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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That is sad, I feel your pain and frustration.
The problem is with longevity and the fact that the seams and joints of body are part of the frame structure . If the rust was only the rear quarters than it would not be as big a deal. But where else is it hiding..
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMongr
That is sad, I feel your pain and frustration.
The problem is with longevity and the fact that the seams and joints of body are part of the frame structure . If the rust was only the rear quarters than it would not be as big a deal. But where else is it hiding..
I know. Its horrible. I just see the jeep physically wasting away in front of me because the PO wanted to drive in the ocean and never clean her. I find samd EVERYWHERE when I take things apart. That hole in the right rear panel is disheartening. I would litterally have to cut the jeep apart to get in there to fix it. The two rear hatch corners are fixable, the metal is solid underneath, a grind wheel will tell the whole story. I live in an apartment with a detached garage but there is barely enough room to fit a car in there so i put my motorbike and tools in there. I definately plan to get another cherokee when this girl has had it. I just will need to start saving NOW :/

Any ideas?
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