Northern Utah BS thread #2
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From: Salt Lake City, UT
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
I use it.
haha, People have been running 9" for a VERY long time with tires bigger the 37's. they even make 40 spline kits. some people say you can run 44" tires on them... but some say my D44 will handle 39's no problem lol
interesting info....
9" has more support
9" has more ground clearance
9" has more gear contract distance then a D60
D60 has a stronger center section then a 9". but an aftermarket third fixes that.
9" axle shaft diameter = 1.35" 31 spline
D60 axle shaft is 1.25" 30 spline
plus Extra pinion support bearing in the 9" is definitely an advantage!
D60 weighs more then 9"
Interesting read about the 9" compared to the D60
But with all that said, running full width... if you think you need more then a 9" get a 14BFF and shave/gear blah blah blah and be done with it $$$$
I personally think a D60 rear is a waste of $$ compared to other options with more/same strength. For example the guy who blew a D60 shaft fallowing me on the first real ledge on poison spider... the 30 splines D60's are a bigger heavier D44.
Don't cut the D44 down so quick lol
D44 shaft diameter 1.31" Rear (30 Spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.25" Rear (30 Spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.35" Rear (31 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.40" Rear (33 spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
14B shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (30 spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.70" Rear (40 spline) <----- thats a big *****
interesting no?
haha, People have been running 9" for a VERY long time with tires bigger the 37's. they even make 40 spline kits. some people say you can run 44" tires on them... but some say my D44 will handle 39's no problem lol
interesting info....
9" has more support
9" has more ground clearance
9" has more gear contract distance then a D60
D60 has a stronger center section then a 9". but an aftermarket third fixes that.
9" axle shaft diameter = 1.35" 31 spline
D60 axle shaft is 1.25" 30 spline
plus Extra pinion support bearing in the 9" is definitely an advantage!
D60 weighs more then 9"
Interesting read about the 9" compared to the D60
But with all that said, running full width... if you think you need more then a 9" get a 14BFF and shave/gear blah blah blah and be done with it $$$$
I personally think a D60 rear is a waste of $$ compared to other options with more/same strength. For example the guy who blew a D60 shaft fallowing me on the first real ledge on poison spider... the 30 splines D60's are a bigger heavier D44.
Don't cut the D44 down so quick lol
D44 shaft diameter 1.31" Rear (30 Spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.25" Rear (30 Spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.35" Rear (31 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.40" Rear (33 spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
14B shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (30 spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.70" Rear (40 spline) <----- thats a big *****

interesting no?
Last edited by Gorillaxj; Oct 18, 2012 at 09:24 PM.
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From: Spanish Fork, Utah
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Renix 4.0L
Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
I use it.
haha, People have been running 9" for a VERY long time with tires bigger the 37's. they even make 40 spline kits. some people say you can run 44" tires on them... but some say my D44 will handle 39's no problem lol
interesting info....
9" has more support
9" has more ground clearance
9" has more gear contract distance then a D60
D60 has a stronger center section then a 9". but an aftermarket third fixes that.
9" axle shaft diameter = 1.35" 31 spline
D60 axle shaft is 1.25" 30 spline
plus Extra pinion support bearing in the 9" is definitely an advantage!
D60 weighs more then 9"
Interesting read about the 9" compared to the D60
But with all that said, running full width... if you think you need more then a 9" get a 14BFF and shave/gear blah blah blah and be done with it $$$$
I personally think a D60 rear is a waste of $$ compared to other options with more/same strength. For example the guy who blew a D60 shaft fallowing me on the first real ledge on poison spider... the 30 splines D60's are a bigger heavier D44.
Don't cut the D44 down so quick lol
D44 shaft diameter 1.31" Rear (30 Spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.25" Rear (30 Spline)
F9" shaft diameter 1.35" Rear (31 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.40" Rear (33 spline)
D60 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
D44 shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (35 spline)
14B shaft diameter 1.50" Rear (30 spline)
interesting no?
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Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Test the tPS. Here's how:
RENIX TPS ADJUSTMENT
Before attempting to adjust your TPS be sure the throttle body has been recently cleaned. It's especially important that the edges of the throttle butterfly are free of any carbon build-up.
IMPORTANT NOTE: With the Key OFF, and using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector of the TPS. The letters are embossed on the connector itself. Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post. Wiggle the wiring harness where it parallels the valve cover and also over near the MAP sensor on the firewall. If you see more than 1 ohm of resistance, or fluctuation in your ohms reading, some modifications to the sensor ground harness will be necessary. The harness repair must be performed before proceeding. I can provide an instruction sheet for that if needed.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION:
RENIX manual transmission equipped XJs have only a flat three-wire TPS mounted on the throttle bodyand it provides data input to the ECU. It has three wires in the connector and they're clearly embossed with the letters A, B, and C. Wire "A" is positive. Wire "B" is ground. Key ON, measure voltage from "A" positive to "B" ground by back-probing the connectors. Note the voltage reading--this is your REFERENCE voltage. Key ON, back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "C". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be seventeen percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example: 4.82 volts X .17=.82 volts. Loosen both T-20 Torx screws attaching the TPS to the throttle body and rotate the TPS until you
have achieved your desired output voltage. Tighten the screws carefully while watching to see that your output voltage remains where it is supposed to be. If you can't achieve the correct output voltage, replace the TPS and start over.
Sometimes, after adjusting your TPS the way outlined above, you may experience a high idle upon starting. If that happens, shut the engine off and reconnect your probes to B and C. Start the engine and while watching your meter, turn the TPS clockwise until the idle drops to normal and then rotate it back counterclockwise to your desired output voltage.
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION: RENIX automatic transmission equipped XJs have a TPS with two connectors. There is a flat three-wire connector, same as the manual transmission vehicles have, and it is tested the same as the manual transmission equipped vehicles, as outlined above—FOR ALL ENGINE MANAGEMENT RELATED ISSUES.
However, the automatic TPS also has a square four-wire connector, clearly embossed with the letters A,B,C, and D. It only uses three wires and provides information to the Transmission Control Module. THIS SQUARE FOUR WIRE CONNECTOR IS USED FOR TRANSMISSION/SHIFTING RELATED ISSUES ONLY. Key ON, measure voltage between "A" positive and "D" ground. Note the voltage. This is your REFERENCE voltage. Back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "D". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be eighty-three percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example 4.8 volts X .83=3.98 volts. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage. If you can't, replace the TPS and start over. So, if you have an automatic equipped XJ your TPS has two sides--one side feeds the ECU, and the other side feeds the TCU.
FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION RELATED ISSUES: Check the square four-wire connector side of the TPS.
If you have ENGINE ISSUES check the flat three-wire connector side of the TPS.
For those with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION--the TPS for the manual transmission XJs is stupid expensive. You can substitute the automatic transmission TPS which is reasonably priced.
Revised 09-22-2012
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From: Lehi, Utah
Year: 90' 93'
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I have non to give. I've been deciding to cut that mj in my backyard and get the rear window section ready to add onto my green xj, but then wanting to finish my Talon so I can race next year. Decisions decisions....


