Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

What could be causing these to stop?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 27, 2017 | 04:20 PM
  #1  
markmark2009's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default What could be causing these to stop?

These all stop working at once (with no warnings that i can hear/smell/etc) - AC/Vent/Heater blower, front wipers, turn signals, radio, cigarette lighter.
Rear wipers still work, and headlights & inside lights still work.
All will come back on together - randomly. But are staying off, now, for the most part.
Any idea what could be causing this?
Thank you!
- Mark Johnston
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2017 | 04:26 PM
  #2  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,577
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Burned brown wire/terminal at the ignition switch.
Attached Thumbnails What could be causing these to stop?-ignition-switch-location.jpg  
Attached Images  
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2017 | 04:28 PM
  #3  
LadyKenai's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
From: Alaska
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Default

most likely your ignition switch located under the dash above the pedals on top of the steering column, i had one that was burnt out and with a lot of the same symptons.

marc

edit: Ah cruiser54 has better information with pictures and circles and arrows

Last edited by LadyKenai; Sep 27, 2017 at 04:42 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2017 | 09:19 PM
  #4  
jordan96xj's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,139
Likes: 93
From: Syracuse, NY
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by LadyKenai
edit: Ah cruiser54 has better information with pictures and circles and arrows
Lol. I see what you did there (I may be a bit young, but I was raised on that stuff).
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2017 | 11:22 PM
  #5  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,577
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

got it fixed yet?
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2017 | 12:06 PM
  #6  
markmark2009's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Thank you very much for the help all!!

I was going to change it today but it's raining pretty good now.
So will wait until it's over.
------------------------------
I researched what you sent me and found that the steering column needs to be dropped, for it sits on top of it (as in picture above).

What i found is to remove bottom dash panel (and disconnect any wires that keep it from coming off), then remove 4 bolts to drop steering column. Then 2 bolts to remove ignition switch.

Am i missing anything?

Thank you!
- Mark
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2017 | 01:39 PM
  #7  
LadyKenai's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
From: Alaska
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Default

yes thats right. i believe there is one more small bolt that holds the highbeam switch in place and if i remember right that has to come lose as well.

marc
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2017 | 12:27 PM
  #8  
markmark2009's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Thank you all!!
The ignition switch fixed my issues.
---------------------------------------------

Advance Auto sold me a faulty ignition switch so i had to go back and get a second one. It would not crank after replacing 1st switch.
But after replacing the second switch, not only did my blower/turn signals/wipers/radio/cigarette lighter come back on, it cranked as well.

Thank you so much!
-----------------------------------------------

I did notice a square box mounted to my lower dash (under glove compartment). When the cable harness was unplugged from it i had no acceleration. Jeep would barely move.
What is that box?

- Mark
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2017 | 06:17 PM
  #9  
markmark2009's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Concerning the ignition switch replacement:

I noticed, today, that i have to turn the key all the way til i can't anymore to get it to crank. Then it cranks right away. One time i couldn't get it to crank.

It's like i need to be able to turn key a little more.

Would this be due to the actuator rod not being in the correct switch position (Lock, Accessory, On) ?
If so could you tell me the correct position it should be in?

1994 Cherokee Sport XJ 4wd
Tilt Wheel

Thank you much!
- Mark

Last edited by markmark2009; Oct 10, 2017 at 06:22 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2017 | 07:26 AM
  #10  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,577
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

the switch is adjustable up and down on the column.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2017 | 04:32 PM
  #11  
LadyKenai's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 589
Likes: 0
From: Alaska
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Default

i looked at the old switch and you can see about where in which position it was screwed down by looking at the marks from the screws, when you install the new switch and keep that around the same position you can pretty close for the right adjustment but its also a bit of a touch its doable takes a bit of time. glad you found your culprit.

marc

Last edited by LadyKenai; Oct 11, 2017 at 04:36 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2017 | 02:46 AM
  #12  
caged's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,874
Likes: 100
From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

that box under the dash on the passenger side is your transmission control unit, or TCU. it's the computer for the transmission. with it unplugged, it will try to start in 3rd gear. you can however shift it manually from 1st to 3rd, but will not have a 2nd, since 1st and 2nd are shared on the shift lever.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bradleyheathhays
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
5
Sep 22, 2017 09:35 PM
Jdrags10
Cherokee Chat
3
Sep 6, 2017 11:31 PM
Cherokee_of_Tennessee
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
Aug 25, 2017 08:31 PM
Tracey Harrison
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
12
Aug 5, 2017 08:04 AM
Miles4098
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
2
Jul 26, 2017 01:18 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 AM.