Water pump atv sealer?
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If you have a gasket why do you need sealer ?
Ive not used sealer ever on a paper gasket , silicone is one of the most mis used products out there .
I never personally used gasket shlack either.
I just did the T stat housing last year some shmo used nothing but silicone , its been leaking 2 yrs.
I pulled housing looked at the surface , I had to true it up( to bad I could not find a cast iron one) reassembled with new gasket and just a smidge of black rtv to hold it on while I put it in place .
Guess everyone has there way of doing things.
Ive not used sealer ever on a paper gasket , silicone is one of the most mis used products out there .
I never personally used gasket shlack either.
I just did the T stat housing last year some shmo used nothing but silicone , its been leaking 2 yrs.
I pulled housing looked at the surface , I had to true it up( to bad I could not find a cast iron one) reassembled with new gasket and just a smidge of black rtv to hold it on while I put it in place .
Guess everyone has there way of doing things.
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Carbs worked poorly. Old gasket sealers worked just fine and still do.
And, newer is not ALWAYS better.........Our Cherokees for example.
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I was in the car business at the dealership level in Parts and Service from 1974 through 1992. Had my own shop from 1992 til 2005.
I never saw more problems with oil leaks until the appearance of RTV on the market in the 80s.
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To the OP......quit guessing, listening to opinions and just use the right stuff for the job. Pretty much self explanatory. Here's one example of many sealers specifically for antifreeze/coolant exposure, I'm sure.
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/p...-gasket-detail
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/p...-gasket-detail
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I got some permatex high tack, I will just have to go easy on that bottom bolt . I'd love to get that bolt out but I guess they were In a hurry and drilled a hole right threw the head. Look at the pic I think I'm missing a chunk off the head that's why they didn't tap it out?
I did go with the OE/WP and thermostat.
I did go with the OE/WP and thermostat.
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Yea it never leaked before I just decided to change out the thermostat while I'll was at the WP .
What is the best way to fill the block with antifreeze and bleed the system of any air?
1990 xj I6 L aw4 w/ 242tc
What is the best way to fill the block with antifreeze and bleed the system of any air?
1990 xj I6 L aw4 w/ 242tc
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Yea it never leaked before I just decided to change out the thermostat while I'll was at the WP .
What is the best way to fill the block with antifreeze and bleed the system of any air?
1990 xj I6 L aw4 w/ 242tc I do have a closed cooling system ?
What is the best way to fill the block with antifreeze and bleed the system of any air?
1990 xj I6 L aw4 w/ 242tc I do have a closed cooling system ?
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I Didn't even get you have a Renix Jeep. Looks nice! Yes, it's a closed system. Be sure to put the hole deal on the thermostat up at 12:00. I like the front wheels about a foot higher than the rears, but level works. Just fill it cold, then let it idle and add 50/50 coolant, (don't buy it, mix it). While it warms up it will go down as the air works out. If it starts spitting and spurting, stop, let it cool some, and repeat. They can be a little stubborn. Once you have it, check it the next day or two.
That's an expansion bottle. 1/2 full or even a little less is the goal, you want about 1/2 air in there to compress when the system get's hot. It's the weak point in the system, I lost count of how many I've replaced in 12 years. (I get them from the JY and only got clear how important it is to not over fill it couple of years ago)
I'd tighten those T-stat bolts 1/2, 3/4, the night before, then (gently of course), do the final touch the next morning.
Check out Cruisers tips in his sig, as well as mine for lots of info on your Renix Jeep.
That's an expansion bottle. 1/2 full or even a little less is the goal, you want about 1/2 air in there to compress when the system get's hot. It's the weak point in the system, I lost count of how many I've replaced in 12 years. (I get them from the JY and only got clear how important it is to not over fill it couple of years ago)
I'd tighten those T-stat bolts 1/2, 3/4, the night before, then (gently of course), do the final touch the next morning.
Check out Cruisers tips in his sig, as well as mine for lots of info on your Renix Jeep.
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So would I fill it through the thermostat housing ? Once it's full I'll be ok to start it up right ?
I'm guessing just fill it anywhere I know it will burp itself eventually.
Just looking for some tips on the easy way to bleed air out of the cooling system do I have to kink the upper hose then start it?
I'm guessing just fill it anywhere I know it will burp itself eventually.
Just looking for some tips on the easy way to bleed air out of the cooling system do I have to kink the upper hose then start it?
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Fill it slowly thru the bottle. When the bottle stays 1/2 full, start the motor let it idle with the cap off and keep the bottle 1/2 full while it warms up.
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I have used just the gasket, and also a very thin layer of RTV Black, and #3, on either sides of the gasket, both with long-term no-leak results. Indian Head is great stuff too. Surprised they haven't faced political correctness over the name...but that's another story.
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