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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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ok, so when i start up my 96 xj 4.0L it sounds like i have a rod knock... that is untill it warms up then it stops.

I'm not exactly sure what it is... i had one buddy tell me that it could be an injector while i thought it was the rocker arms or a bent push rod ... i run 10w30 in it so i know oil is getting up to the rockers... also my oil pressure guage reads perfectly...

if you have any thoughts please let me know

thanks guys
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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The fact that it stops when it warms up means it could be piston slap.

However, check that the driveplate to torque converter bolts are tight...easy enough to check before worrying about internal engine noises.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Check for a crack in your header. Mine has a crack and it does have some what of a knock when cold start then goes away.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rctrav
Check for a crack in your header. Mine has a crack and it does have some what of a knock when cold start then goes away.
x2
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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What brand of oil filter do you have. When I first bought my 98Xj it had a fram filter and it had a bad knock when I would first start it up. Hopefully it's as simple as putting a good quality filter such as Mopar, Wix or Napa Gold.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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If you suspect a lifter tick, shut it right off, wait 20 seconds and re-start. Is the noise gone? Oil filter like Robert says, too.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 12:19 AM
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Got a recording of the noise?
Bent pushrod or bad rocker arm won't go away once it warms up.
Rod knock tends to be quieter at idle, louder at higher rpm, often worst when you decelerate. If you disconnect the plugs one by one a rod noise will get quieter or go away entirely when you deactivate the bad cylinder.
I'm gonna go with piston slap, keeping in mind that I'm 99% guessing, lol.

i run 10w30 in it so i know oil is getting up to the rockers
How can you tell your rockers are getting oil by the weight of the oil you are using?
You really have to pull the valve cover and look.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Ever shine a light into the oil filler hole to assess the amount of sludge in there?
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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My '01 does the same thing. I have a bad wristpin in cylinder #1 :banghead:
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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In my experience rod knock is usually present all the time. I had it in my camaro, buddy got it in his supra. Noise would increase with rpm and never went away. Hopefully its not that, some good suggestions on what to check for here.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by motoo344
In my experience rod knock is usually present all the time. I had it in my camaro, buddy got it in his supra. Noise would increase with rpm and never went away. Hopefully its not that, some good suggestions on what to check for here.
Yes, and it gets worse rapidly.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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When a 4.0 stops making noise, it means it's not running. There is a reason why Jeep put radios in as standard equipment.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Yes, and it gets worse rapidly.
x2 If you ever heard rod knock before there is no mistaken what it is and it usually get louder as engine warms. It is a sign that catastrophic failure is about to happen.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustedback
When a 4.0 stops making noise, it means it's not running. There is a reason why Jeep put radios in as standard equipment.

LOL...so true.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl48
x2
i have a bnard new gibson stainless steel ceramic coated header so thats a negative
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