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Old May 3, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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its legal as long as you have mirrors. Id say your best bet is buy tube doors, cops are less likely to mess with you about it and they come with mirrors. Tomken will be producing 2 door versions soon.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MontanaXJer
This is absolutely 150% false! The doors on an XJ (regardless of 2 or 4 door) add no structural strength to the body what so ever. If you don't believe me, search any other Cherokee forum regarding this subject. This subject has been covered extensively.
i have seen it in person if your door are off and you flex it can tweak the unibody. im sure you will be ok mall crawling
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Old May 4, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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This tweaking of the unibody subject has been covered a vast amount of times and frankly I have seen very good arguments on both sides. Here are my conclusions.

1. Do the doors add to structural integrity? Possibly.
2. Will I wheel without doors? No.
3. Does the rear hatch provide structural integrity? Yes.

Doesn't help many but I just have seen so much from both sides that its starting to make my eyes bleed, so from the research I have done I wont wheel without doors but have no problem DDing without them.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Kyle, thats a good point. I wouldnt wheel with them off anyways, i drive a 2 door theres plenty of room to get my head out the window to take a look at what im doing, but i wouldnt want to be splashing a bunch of mud up in my xj anyway so id keep doors on while wheeling, but driving around town on the summer is a different story.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dabeast727
Kyle, thats a good point. I wouldnt wheel with them off anyways, i drive a 2 door theres plenty of room to get my head out the window to take a look at what im doing, but i wouldnt want to be splashing a bunch of mud up in my xj anyway so id keep doors on while wheeling, but driving around town on the summer is a different story.
If ya want that much openness get a TJ. I like the closed in felling I get with an XJ. I have had CJs, YJs and plenty of motorcycles, so I now enjoy the closed in protected feeling of the XJ. I also enjoy A/C too. To each their own!!
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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id actualyl rather have a tj, but i cant exaclty throw all the stuff off my jeep onto a wrangler and i dont wanna just start over haha
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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OH NOES MY UNIBODY!!!11!!ONE!!

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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bwfdrums
Before you take off your doors remember it weakens your frame a good bit. With having a 2 door your in a little bit better shape then a 4-door because the 2-doors a little stronger. I would get frame strengtheners before you do so and what not. After a couple of times wheeling I bet you will have a hard time getting the door to go back on because of the frame being twisted.

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http://tntcustoms.com/page.asp?pageid=59
2 doors are weaker, due to having one less pillar and more open space, wheeling doorless does not weaken your frame, i have wheeled without doors on 37's for over a year and while the body has taken a beating beyond repair the doors still open and close as the day i got it.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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webwheelers DISPERSE!

wheelin 4-doorless for 3 years now on nearly every trip ive been on and my doors close no different then the day it rolled off the line in toledo.

i also can open and close them with ease when fully tweaked.


oh and my unibody is fine.




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Old May 6, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Watched your videos. Very good job. Once a Marine always a Marine. Semper Fi.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
OH NOES MY UNIBODY!!!11!!ONE!!

I wouldn't be too worried about your unibody, I'd be more worried about the severe head injury you're going to get when you fall out of your Jeep because your not wearing a seat belt.

The right way to do it:
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And no, I am not trying to flame you! I am however concerned for the personal safety of a fellow Jeeper, not to mention the bad SAFETY example this sets for others.

Buckle up!


Stepping down of the soapbox now.....
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Copy that!!
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Old May 7, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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on my late model xj to do the doors after i get the wires cut and the alignment pin out and the plastic covering off the bolt thingie on the hinge do i just grind down the top and bottom of the bolt? like is it like a rivit where i jsut grind it off and it falls off or what?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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anyone?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Sorry no experience to help you out. My doors are on and will remain on while I own it.
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