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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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A few actually. After first using it on the Horrid sludged up VW 2.8 V6, its been done on a few sludge vehicles. You have ZERO experience with the BG product so of coarse you wouldn't have a clue Mr. Shadetree. The BG does NOT Break up the sludge, It truly dissolves the ****. It is high priority to take precaution NOT to disturb the sludge build up and create debris.

BTW I have a whole bottle of seafoam in my cabinet at work.. Why would I want to use that **** when there's a product to out perform it in anything someone would want to use it for. Seafoam is for the D.I.Y.er Shadetree guys

jeepsurfer1, you have my word. This WILL be you be your best option.
Shadetree? Ive worked at several jeep shops and one dealership.....hardly shadetree. Ive been working on jeeps for 20+ years, if that was that great I would have seen it by now.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Shadetree? Ive worked at several jeep shops and one dealership.....hardly shadetree. Ive been working on jeeps for 20+ years, if that was that great I would have seen it by now.
Personally friend, I could care less where you've worked. I have worked at many shops with other techs, and some I wouldn't trust to change my oil. So, what are you getting at? Gloating about youve been working on one the simplest line up of vehicles in the automotive industry, looking for a pat on the back?

& yes its that good. Maybe you havent hard about this being that its fairly new, about 2 years. Or thats its only handled through a VW/Audi Dealer. Guess you also wasn't aware the GM top engine cleaner is hands down one or the best products for cleaning throttles, intakes mani's, and intake valves of carbon build up. Of course not, you have a shelf for of seafoam
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boost Happy

Personally friend, I could care less where you've worked. I have worked at many shops with other techs, and some I wouldn't trust to change my oil. So, what are you getting at? Gloating about youve been working on one the simplest line up of vehicles in the automotive industry, looking for a pat on the back?

& yes its that good. Maybe you havent hard about this being that its fairly new, about 2 years. Or thats its only handled through a VW/Audi Dealer. Guess you also wasn't aware the GM top engine cleaner is hands down one or the best products for cleaning throttles, intakes mani's, and intake valves of carbon build up. Of course not, you have a shelf for of seafoam
I know my way is right and works just fine, always has. Thats all I need to know. If he wants to go and get ripped off for some stealership junk, more power to him. Since jeeps are apparently a second class simple vehicle, ill keep using my second class simple sea foam....
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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ouch, let me take out the burn kit.......
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Just a thought, Jeepsurfer; have you checked your oil pressure with a mechanical gauge? Our Oil Pressure Sending Units aren't the most reliable or consistent.

I hope you're able to save your engine. I get my blood pressure up when my Jeep gets into the 3500 kilometer mark! *L* I can't imagine what your Jeep's P.O. did to get a 4.0 that caked with goo...

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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by XJPhoenix
Just a thought, Jeepsurfer; have you checked your oil pressure with a mechanical gauge? Our Oil Pressure Sending Units aren't the most reliable or consistent.

I hope you're able to save your engine. I get my blood pressure up when my Jeep gets into the 3500 kilometer mark! *L* I can't imagine what your Jeep's P.O. did to get a 4.0 that caked with goo...

i used another sender and more or less i trust it because i used to read 50...
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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so i read up on the cleaner and if the vw dealer will do it then ill go for it and see what happens, that said i will most likely do the second method, is it more work, yes but ill be where i know what im doing, the other way ill be trusting a chemical i know little about, gotta say i love the idea but there is not enough hard facts and proof for me thank you guys for your help ill update when done
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
I know my way is right and works just fine, always has. Thats all I need to know. If he wants to go and get ripped off for some stealership junk, more power to him. Since jeeps are apparently a second class simple vehicle, ill keep using my second class simple sea foam....
Stealership junk??? Are you kidding? Im sure he works on the same cars every week... Cause ya know its a VW place... Op: Trev is right on this one...
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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hey if they will insure my motor surviving there junk and replace it if it doesn't work, im cool with that ha ha
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Lol!!!! BG products are junk.
And yes I have used every fancy upper end motor cleaner out there.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
I always set my oil pump pickup about 3/4" from the pan bottom and spot weld it so it doesn't move
Nice! Very few people take the time to do this. Must be an engine builder eh?
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepsurfer1
hey if they will insure my motor surviving there junk and replace it if it doesn't work, im cool with that ha ha
Don't let them sucker you into trading for a VW. I hear the motors sludge up.

It's nothing new, really. Back in the '70's when I worked for Ford, that picture of yours could've been any of the 302's with double sump oil pans.
Nobody ever removed the rear drain plug, leaving a quart or two of filthy oil that never got drained. Combined with the sucky oil of the 70's, 70-80K miles later they were plugged up solid.
Anyway...we fixed them with a process similar to what VW is using now. An enormous external oil filter and a couple quarts of transmission fluid with a few pints of kerosene added. Idle the engine until the external filter plugs, change it and keep going until all the crap is out.

The tranny fluid + kerosene isn't a good idea anymore, perhaps BG has come up with something more bearing-friendly.
Manufacturers are generally not in the habit of approving treatments that trash engines under warranty, so I'd assume it is at least safe. Whether or not it works.... I have no idea.
OTOH thorough mechanical removal with a shop vac followed by some gentle flushing with a high-detergent oil always works, given enough time.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fedx95
ouch, let me take out the burn kit.......
Put some neosporin on it it will help with the burn
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoCorey

Nice! Very few people take the time to do this. Must be an engine builder eh?
What you guys talking about? Spot welding the pickup for the oil pump?
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepsurfer1
What you guys talking about? Spot welding the pickup for the oil pump?
They're a press fit. Keeps them from working loose.
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