Looking for h4 headlamp upgrade
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Looking for h4 headlamp upgrade
I recently got some projector headlights that were kinda cheap i guess and i put some nice hid's in them and they arent very bright at all. i figured out the bulb is bright but the headlamp is crappy so does anyone have any suggestions for an h4 headlamp to buy instead of the ones i have?
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I have a set of Autopals on mine, and I love them. I got them off EBAY. Here's a link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200mm-H6054-...ht_2607wt_1185
I had HIDs in them for a while, but removed the HIDs because I was blinding oncoming traffic. I have a heavy duty headlight harness upgrade (from LMC Truck's website) and regular H4 halogen bulbs. They light up everything very well, the high beams are intense!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200mm-H6054-...ht_2607wt_1185
I had HIDs in them for a while, but removed the HIDs because I was blinding oncoming traffic. I have a heavy duty headlight harness upgrade (from LMC Truck's website) and regular H4 halogen bulbs. They light up everything very well, the high beams are intense!
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im thinking about gettin these
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_5011.htm
anyone have these? and if so do you like them?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_5011.htm
anyone have these? and if so do you like them?
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im thinking about gettin these
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_5011.htm
anyone have these? and if so do you like them?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_5011.htm
anyone have these? and if so do you like them?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200mm-H6054-...item4cf8f40eb7
And none of the upgrades are worth a hoot if you don't get an upgrade harness like this:
http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
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Upgraded headlights the legal (ish) way...
1) Get a new headlight harness.
You can make your own http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoHeadlightLoom.htm
Or you can buy one: http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
The eautoworks harnesses used to be quite cheap until everyone on this forum started recommending them and the price was raised accordingly.
You can pick them up for $29.99 here http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=48 part number 36-3580. It says it fits a chevy blazer but it's the same as the eautoworks harness and I'm running the LMC harness in my XJ.
There are other more expensive options for pre-made harnesses but I'm not super familiar with those.
2) Upgrade to H4 housings
There are two types of regulations pertaining to headlight housings. There are DOT approved housings which are legal in the US and there are Ecode lights which are European housings and aren't legal in the US although many people use them as they are considered superior housings due to the light pattern.
DOT
Rampage http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_501.htm
IPF http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
Delta http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm
Hella http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_02.htm
Ecode
Autopals (look on ebay for Autopal 200mm H4 housing)
Hella http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744
Cibie http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/
Personally I won't buy housings that have plastic lenses, I much prefer glass but your mileage may vary.
3) Get good bulbs
Some of the above housings come with bulbs included with them. I tend not to recommend bulbs as the choices are extremely vast and everyone has their own preferences as to color and wattage.
4) Aim your headlights properly!
I can't say enough how much improperly aimed headlights annoy me on the road plus you are wasting all that time and effort to upgrade the lighting if you don't aim the light where it does the most good... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78017
5) On HID Lights
I do not recommend HID's for use in XJ's... People will show links to cheap HID kits and "Projectors" off of ebay and other sites which will give you a lot of light and will also throw a lot of light in all directions making you very visible to police and possibly blinding other drivers.
Read http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html for a well written description of the problems with HID kits.
When using HID's you need a true projector housing. I'm sure people will chime in and say they run HID's and ebay housings and have had no problems but I'm describing the legal (ish) way.
If you want to go down the road of HID's, take a look at what true projector housings cost http://www.kbcarstuff.com/6054-200mm...-p/xd-6054.htm
http://www.brightheadlights.com/hid-upcoming.htm
or you can buy the projectors and retrofit them into existing housings if you are so inclined: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/he...9/#post1391556
There are a myriad of options available to consumers with the limiting factor being cost. One can spend under $100 and have significantly upgraded their lighting or they can spend $1000 and upgrade their lighting more. It's all in how much money you want to spend.
For those wanting to do some of these upgrades but not necessarily all I would do them in the following order:
1) Headlight Harness (major improvement even with sealed beams)
2) Housings and Associated Bulbs
3) Hid and Projectors (Cost prohibitive to do correctly)
For installation of the harness and housings see this excellent write up: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/my-h4-upgrade-114440/
Disclaimer: Always check your local and state laws as some places have more stringent lighting laws than others... I am in no way associated with any of the above companies and none of what I say should be taken as the absolute truth or only way to do things. Flame on...
1) Get a new headlight harness.
You can make your own http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoHeadlightLoom.htm
Or you can buy one: http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
The eautoworks harnesses used to be quite cheap until everyone on this forum started recommending them and the price was raised accordingly.
You can pick them up for $29.99 here http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=48 part number 36-3580. It says it fits a chevy blazer but it's the same as the eautoworks harness and I'm running the LMC harness in my XJ.
There are other more expensive options for pre-made harnesses but I'm not super familiar with those.
2) Upgrade to H4 housings
There are two types of regulations pertaining to headlight housings. There are DOT approved housings which are legal in the US and there are Ecode lights which are European housings and aren't legal in the US although many people use them as they are considered superior housings due to the light pattern.
DOT
Rampage http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_501.htm
IPF http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
Delta http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm
Hella http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_02.htm
Ecode
Autopals (look on ebay for Autopal 200mm H4 housing)
Hella http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744
Cibie http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/
Personally I won't buy housings that have plastic lenses, I much prefer glass but your mileage may vary.
3) Get good bulbs
Some of the above housings come with bulbs included with them. I tend not to recommend bulbs as the choices are extremely vast and everyone has their own preferences as to color and wattage.
4) Aim your headlights properly!
I can't say enough how much improperly aimed headlights annoy me on the road plus you are wasting all that time and effort to upgrade the lighting if you don't aim the light where it does the most good... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78017
5) On HID Lights
I do not recommend HID's for use in XJ's... People will show links to cheap HID kits and "Projectors" off of ebay and other sites which will give you a lot of light and will also throw a lot of light in all directions making you very visible to police and possibly blinding other drivers.
Read http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html for a well written description of the problems with HID kits.
When using HID's you need a true projector housing. I'm sure people will chime in and say they run HID's and ebay housings and have had no problems but I'm describing the legal (ish) way.
If you want to go down the road of HID's, take a look at what true projector housings cost http://www.kbcarstuff.com/6054-200mm...-p/xd-6054.htm
http://www.brightheadlights.com/hid-upcoming.htm
or you can buy the projectors and retrofit them into existing housings if you are so inclined: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/he...9/#post1391556
There are a myriad of options available to consumers with the limiting factor being cost. One can spend under $100 and have significantly upgraded their lighting or they can spend $1000 and upgrade their lighting more. It's all in how much money you want to spend.
For those wanting to do some of these upgrades but not necessarily all I would do them in the following order:
1) Headlight Harness (major improvement even with sealed beams)
2) Housings and Associated Bulbs
3) Hid and Projectors (Cost prohibitive to do correctly)
For installation of the harness and housings see this excellent write up: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/my-h4-upgrade-114440/
Disclaimer: Always check your local and state laws as some places have more stringent lighting laws than others... I am in no way associated with any of the above companies and none of what I say should be taken as the absolute truth or only way to do things. Flame on...
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Upgraded headlights the legal (ish) way...
1) Get a new headlight harness.
You can make your own http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoHeadlightLoom.htm
Or you can buy one: http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
The eautoworks harnesses used to be quite cheap until everyone on this forum started recommending them and the price was raised accordingly.
You can pick them up for $29.99 here http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=48 part number 36-3580. It says it fits a chevy blazer but it's the same as the eautoworks harness and I'm running the LMC harness in my XJ.
There are other more expensive options for pre-made harnesses but I'm not super familiar with those.
2) Upgrade to H4 housings
There are two types of regulations pertaining to headlight housings. There are DOT approved housings which are legal in the US and there are Ecode lights which are European housings and aren't legal in the US although many people use them as they are considered superior housings due to the light pattern.
DOT
Rampage http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_501.htm
IPF http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
Delta http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm
Hella http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_02.htm
Ecode
Autopals (look on ebay for Autopal 200mm H4 housing)
Hella http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744
Cibie http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/
Personally I won't buy housings that have plastic lenses, I much prefer glass but your mileage may vary.
3) Get good bulbs
Some of the above housings come with bulbs included with them. I tend not to recommend bulbs as the choices are extremely vast and everyone has their own preferences as to color and wattage.
4) Aim your headlights properly!
I can't say enough how much improperly aimed headlights annoy me on the road plus you are wasting all that time and effort to upgrade the lighting if you don't aim the light where it does the most good... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78017
5) On HID Lights
I do not recommend HID's for use in XJ's... People will show links to cheap HID kits and "Projectors" off of ebay and other sites which will give you a lot of light and will also throw a lot of light in all directions making you very visible to police and possibly blinding other drivers.
Read http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html for a well written description of the problems with HID kits.
When using HID's you need a true projector housing. I'm sure people will chime in and say they run HID's and ebay housings and have had no problems but I'm describing the legal (ish) way.
If you want to go down the road of HID's, take a look at what true projector housings cost http://www.kbcarstuff.com/6054-200mm...-p/xd-6054.htm
http://www.brightheadlights.com/hid-upcoming.htm
or you can buy the projectors and retrofit them into existing housings if you are so inclined: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/he...9/#post1391556
There are a myriad of options available to consumers with the limiting factor being cost. One can spend under $100 and have significantly upgraded their lighting or they can spend $1000 and upgrade their lighting more. It's all in how much money you want to spend.
For those wanting to do some of these upgrades but not necessarily all I would do them in the following order:
1) Headlight Harness (major improvement even with sealed beams)
2) Housings and Associated Bulbs
3) Hid and Projectors (Cost prohibitive to do correctly)
For installation of the harness and housings see this excellent write up: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/my-h4-upgrade-114440/
Disclaimer: Always check your local and state laws as some places have more stringent lighting laws than others... I am in no way associated with any of the above companies and none of what I say should be taken as the absolute truth or only way to do things. Flame on...
1) Get a new headlight harness.
You can make your own http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoHeadlightLoom.htm
Or you can buy one: http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
The eautoworks harnesses used to be quite cheap until everyone on this forum started recommending them and the price was raised accordingly.
You can pick them up for $29.99 here http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=48 part number 36-3580. It says it fits a chevy blazer but it's the same as the eautoworks harness and I'm running the LMC harness in my XJ.
There are other more expensive options for pre-made harnesses but I'm not super familiar with those.
2) Upgrade to H4 housings
There are two types of regulations pertaining to headlight housings. There are DOT approved housings which are legal in the US and there are Ecode lights which are European housings and aren't legal in the US although many people use them as they are considered superior housings due to the light pattern.
DOT
Rampage http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_501.htm
IPF http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
Delta http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm
Hella http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_02.htm
Ecode
Autopals (look on ebay for Autopal 200mm H4 housing)
Hella http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744
Cibie http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/
Personally I won't buy housings that have plastic lenses, I much prefer glass but your mileage may vary.
3) Get good bulbs
Some of the above housings come with bulbs included with them. I tend not to recommend bulbs as the choices are extremely vast and everyone has their own preferences as to color and wattage.
4) Aim your headlights properly!
I can't say enough how much improperly aimed headlights annoy me on the road plus you are wasting all that time and effort to upgrade the lighting if you don't aim the light where it does the most good... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78017
5) On HID Lights
I do not recommend HID's for use in XJ's... People will show links to cheap HID kits and "Projectors" off of ebay and other sites which will give you a lot of light and will also throw a lot of light in all directions making you very visible to police and possibly blinding other drivers.
Read http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html for a well written description of the problems with HID kits.
When using HID's you need a true projector housing. I'm sure people will chime in and say they run HID's and ebay housings and have had no problems but I'm describing the legal (ish) way.
If you want to go down the road of HID's, take a look at what true projector housings cost http://www.kbcarstuff.com/6054-200mm...-p/xd-6054.htm
http://www.brightheadlights.com/hid-upcoming.htm
or you can buy the projectors and retrofit them into existing housings if you are so inclined: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/he...9/#post1391556
There are a myriad of options available to consumers with the limiting factor being cost. One can spend under $100 and have significantly upgraded their lighting or they can spend $1000 and upgrade their lighting more. It's all in how much money you want to spend.
For those wanting to do some of these upgrades but not necessarily all I would do them in the following order:
1) Headlight Harness (major improvement even with sealed beams)
2) Housings and Associated Bulbs
3) Hid and Projectors (Cost prohibitive to do correctly)
For installation of the harness and housings see this excellent write up: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/my-h4-upgrade-114440/
Disclaimer: Always check your local and state laws as some places have more stringent lighting laws than others... I am in no way associated with any of the above companies and none of what I say should be taken as the absolute truth or only way to do things. Flame on...
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I recently got some projector headlights that were kinda cheap i guess and i put some nice hid's in them and they arent very bright at all. i figured out the bulb is bright but the headlamp is crappy so does anyone have any suggestions for an h4 headlamp to buy instead of the ones i have?
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I have the Autopal housings and putco harness recommended above and I'm very happy with them. I will say I did the harness first with the stock headlights and it made a ton of difference by itself.
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I would do this but the HID's came with all new wiring so im not using stock wiring.. i think its just the lamps that are bad so im either getting http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_5011.htm or
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
anyone recommend one or the other?
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The eautoworks harness upgrade is only going to cost me $7.20 more than the LMC harness with shipping, I just hate to pay almost $50 just for wiring. My stock lights absolutely suck though and I work 3rd shift and drive a lot at night....is their that big of a difference really? Also the harness is completely plug and play correct?? Thank you all for your words of encouragement and wisdom when we all need it the most.....
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http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx
If you order these, and everyone says they are great, but plan on waiting just a little bit. Mine don't ship till thursday and i ordered them over a week ago. They ship directly from the manufacturer.
If you order these, and everyone says they are great, but plan on waiting just a little bit. Mine don't ship till thursday and i ordered them over a week ago. They ship directly from the manufacturer.
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The eautoworks harness upgrade is only going to cost me $7.20 more than the LMC harness with shipping, I just hate to pay almost $50 just for wiring. My stock lights absolutely suck though and I work 3rd shift and drive a lot at night....is their that big of a difference really? Also the harness is completely plug and play correct?? Thank you all for your words of encouragement and wisdom when we all need it the most.....