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Old 11-10-2009, 09:47 PM
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How wouldn't that fix my shake if the sway bar was hanging off
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swaybar controls body roll and handling.
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ok well it helped alotttttttt. theres a very little shake now which is due to my steering beeing a little loose but for now that fix will have to do.
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You are going to want to find the real problem cuz new sway bar link do the same as a new steering stabilizer. it might feel better but any shaking at all is bad. i thought the same thing fixed it then two months later i was back to severe DW
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Well I'm still trying to find what is causing it. I replace a lot of stuff on the front end my next fix is tighting the steering wheel cuz iþs loose at the tilt.
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Originally Posted by x91j
Well I'm still trying to find what is causing it. I replace a lot of stuff on the front end my next fix is tighting the steering wheel cuz iþs loose at the tilt.
Death Wobble

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=89888

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Curing death wobble is definetly a reality. Death wobble isn’t similar to a wobble from an unbalanced tire. It is by far worse. When death wobble hits you will know… it’s a violent shake form the front end that feels like the Jeep is about to fall apart. Usually when it happens the only thing you can do to stop it is slow down. The first steps to eliminate death wobble should be a visual inspection of each component, check the bushings, tire balance and an alignment. There are some common things you must check anytime you lift your Jeep. Death wobble is experienced mostly on lifter Jeeps, however it is not uncommon for someone without a lift to experience the dreaded DW. Listed below are a few things you can check.

Torque specs:

Item ........................................ Ft. lbs. ................... Nm

Lug nuts (1/2 X 20 w/ 60* cone) .... 85-115 .............. 115-150
All tie rod ends ............................ 55 ..................... 74
Steering (both ends) .................... 55 ..................... 74
Shock absorber upper nut .............. 16 ..................... 22
Shock absorber lower nuts ............. 17 ..................... 23
UCA frame end ............................. 66 ..................... 89
UCA axle end ............................... 55 ...................... 74
LCA frame end ............................. 85 ...................... 115
LCA axle end ............................... 85 ...................... 115
Track bar frame end ..................... 60 ...................... 81
Track bar axle end ....................... 40 ....................... 54
Track bar bracket bolts ................. 92 ....................... 125
Track bar bracket nut ................... 74 ....................... 100
Track bar bracket support bolts ...... 31 ....................... 42
Hub bolts (3) ............................... 75 ....................... 102
Hub- axle bolt .............................. 175 ..................... 237

Alingment specs (stock):

Angle ............. Preferred ........... Range ............. Max R/L diff.

Caster ............ +7.0* ........ +5.25* to +8.5* ......... 1.25*
Camber ........... -0.25* ....... -0.75* to +0.5 ........... 1.0*
Total Toe-in .... +0.25* ....... 0* to +0.45* ............. .05*
Thrust angle .... 0* to ± 0.15*



Check your Track Bar, play in this can cause the axle to shake.
1. Bushings - check to see that they are not worn. Looks for cracks, and excessive play)
2. Angles - this angle should be the same as your draglink. Use an angle finders you can get at sears to determine this, don’t just eye-ball it.
3. Bolts – Make sure all bolts are tightened down to spec (some lift components have a different torque spec then)

Check the Axle, your mounts may be worn
1. Check the axle mount. Here is a good write up on a wallowed out bolt hole
http://www.jeepin.com/features/trackbarfix/index.asp
2. Check your Universal joints, a binding or lose U-Joint can cause DW
3. On the frame end if you still use the conventional Tie Rod End or (TRE) make sure that there is no play in this, as play can cause DW.
4. Look/Check for worn/torn boots on ball joints/tie-rod ends.

Check your Tires
1. Out of balance tires can cause shaking in the front end, which can lead to death wobble.
2. Make sure all of your lug nuts are tight, (Sounds elementary but it happens to the best of us)

Check your Frame
1. Small cracks in the frame can cause the steering box to feel loose, Shaking from DW can only make this worse. 33’s and larger should have some form of Steering box brace, or frame brace in.
2. If you have upgraded your frame mount, make sure its cranked down nice and tight. (best to use an impact gun)
3. A busted Frame Mount can cause play in the front end causing DW (Keep a watchful eye on the welds as welds in sheer can break over time.

Make sure you have a good alignment
1. After you get an alignment done, have them print out the numbers for you. An XJ should have a 7* positive caster angle. A lifted XJ can’t always have that high of a number because the pinion would become out of alignment with the front driveshaft. Pinion angle takes precedence over caster.
2. Make you sure you go to a place that will adjust the caster if necessary (either by shims in the frame side of the LCAs, or adjustable LCAs).

The more adjustable parts the easier it is to tune in your suspension.
1. Adjustable Track Bar
2. Adjustable Upper and Lower Control Arms (upper ones above 4” of lift). Not only are they adjustable, but they are stronger.


Things to remember:
1. A Steering Stabilizer (SS) is not a quick fix for DW.

Entire list of everything that can cause death wobble:
-Front tires out of balance
-Front alignment out of spec
-Loose track bar
-Worn track bar bushings
-Worn track bar end
-Need adjustable track bar
-Bad bushings/joints in control arms
-Worn/damaged steering stabilizer
-Worn/damaged shocks
-Worn/damaged tie rod end
-Bad U Joint
-Bad ball joint
-Loose frame mount
-Steering box looseness
-Need drop pitman arm
-Driveshaft(s) not balanced
-Bad front hub assembly
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have you had an alignment?
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ni i actually havnt. when i let go of the wheel the jeep drives straight. But im sure i need one
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get one, thats probably the problem
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will do! thanks a lot everyone!
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Originally Posted by nick_n_ii
Ye sit can..

Lift is not required for "Death Wobble" to happen.

Start by checking tie-rods, Control arm bushings and the track bar. If you don't find a issue start with the unit bearings.

I've never seen a u-joint cause a vibe at a set speed. They either vibe or not...

well in my ranger the ujoint on my driveshaft and completely toast and it would only viberate between 90-105km/h anything higher or lower and it wouldnt make a sound. but for those 15km/h it was complete death
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Mine drove straight too, but I was toed out 0.33 left and 0.33 right. when it was aligned, the DW was gone
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Originally Posted by Wheeler-man
Mine drove straight too, but I was toed out 0.33 left and 0.33 right. when it was aligned, the DW was gone

good to know good to know
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I have an 1989 XJ had the death wobble and replaced track bar and it cured the problem. I had all other steering componants checked first.
I got one for $40.00 original equipment, from where I forgot
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