how to launch for the 1/4. drop clutch in 4HI?
lol. silly.
Car on the left is the car I'm racing It's my girl's car I just finished putting together.
MY DAILY DRIVER IS ON THE RIGHT. its a 93 5.0 stock. Not shown is my strip car.
the rattle canned rig, when i sold it.
srt4 tool couldnt handle all the issues, so he spent 2 grand on repairs, and gave it back for half what i sold it for. Pretty much installed new oil pan, gasket, all new pads rotors, shoes and hardware front and back, new brake lines, new shocks, shampood interior, new rad air horns, and took chicks off the back window cuz of his gf. sold it back when he couldnt figure out a simple fuel line issue. sold for 1400. bought back for 800 a month later
Car on the left is the car I'm racing It's my girl's car I just finished putting together.
MY DAILY DRIVER IS ON THE RIGHT. its a 93 5.0 stock. Not shown is my strip car.
the rattle canned rig, when i sold it.
srt4 tool couldnt handle all the issues, so he spent 2 grand on repairs, and gave it back for half what i sold it for. Pretty much installed new oil pan, gasket, all new pads rotors, shoes and hardware front and back, new brake lines, new shocks, shampood interior, new rad air horns, and took chicks off the back window cuz of his gf. sold it back when he couldnt figure out a simple fuel line issue. sold for 1400. bought back for 800 a month later
GF's car looks pretty nice, but seems like an opposite sleeper if it's pushing to only get into the 14's.
+1 on what S14unimog said as well. A 4k dump in those cars is just going to bog and stutter.... even slipping at 4k is a little low. Like he said, drop the 4wd and beef up the rear... you'd be fine with some nice tires at the right psi.
This thread is getting better.
And that vid of the XJ racing, I call BS. You never get a clear shot of the launch or start. Its a quick truck, I just think the cars are setups.
And that vid of the XJ racing, I call BS. You never get a clear shot of the launch or start. Its a quick truck, I just think the cars are setups.
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That is not at all how the EVO and STI guys do it; if they know what they are doing. The best way to launch an AWD car is to slip the clutch excessively. If you just dump it, and don't have enough power to burn throughout the gear, it'll just settle and bog. My old roommate had a decently modified EVO VIII and his fastest ET's resulted from a Kevlar clutch and careful slip control so that it wouldn't bog and wouldn't explode his center diff.
All of this is irrelevant. You don't make NEAR enough power to really need 4wd. You would do much better to remove those components, for the weight savings, and beef up the rear u-joint straps.
I've got a 430whp 240sx that I can keep under control in a launch. You shouldn't have any problem with an old XJ....
All of this is irrelevant. You don't make NEAR enough power to really need 4wd. You would do much better to remove those components, for the weight savings, and beef up the rear u-joint straps.
I've got a 430whp 240sx that I can keep under control in a launch. You shouldn't have any problem with an old XJ....
wouldnt want to convert to 2wd bc its a 4x4 my girl and I share when there is salt on the roads and dont want to go out in the snow salt and ice with stangs.
Idea was to make the run, in 4x4. Cause the strap clamps, leafs and rusty shackles won't hold.
I'm probably going to scrap the idea, It's getting too serious. I got cars to go fast in. I wanted to pull it off in an XJ with just a few bolt ons and weight mods. Something completely not designed for what I intended to use it for...
Sounded good. But if its not possible to dump a launch in 4hi and drop it to 2wheel at 60 foot gear shift. I probably won't do it. Its not doing anything in 2 wheel without breaking something or getting traction.
I forsee wheel spin anyway. I got 2 open diffs. If i'm spinning lightly, I may not break TC
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I have no idea how they launch, I'm a RWD guy and know RWD would work best.
wouldnt want to convert to 2wd bc its a 4x4 my girl and I share when there is salt on the roads and dont want to go out in the snow salt and ice with stangs.
Idea was to make the run, in 4x4. Cause the strap clamps, leafs and rusty shackles won't hold.
I'm probably going to scrap the idea, It's getting too serious. I got cars to go fast in. I wanted to pull it off in an XJ with just a few bolt ons and weight mods. Something completely not designed for what I intended to use it for...
Sounded good. But if its not possible to dump a launch in 4hi and drop it to 2wheel at 60 foot gear shift. I probably won't do it. Its not doing anything in 2 wheel without breaking something or getting traction.
I forsee wheel spin anyway. I got 2 open diffs. If i'm spinning lightly, I may not break TC
wouldnt want to convert to 2wd bc its a 4x4 my girl and I share when there is salt on the roads and dont want to go out in the snow salt and ice with stangs.
Idea was to make the run, in 4x4. Cause the strap clamps, leafs and rusty shackles won't hold.
I'm probably going to scrap the idea, It's getting too serious. I got cars to go fast in. I wanted to pull it off in an XJ with just a few bolt ons and weight mods. Something completely not designed for what I intended to use it for...
Sounded good. But if its not possible to dump a launch in 4hi and drop it to 2wheel at 60 foot gear shift. I probably won't do it. Its not doing anything in 2 wheel without breaking something or getting traction.
I forsee wheel spin anyway. I got 2 open diffs. If i'm spinning lightly, I may not break TC
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Brakes can be overpowered when just doing a brake stand launch... a trans brake allows you to hold the rpms right in the powerband with out worrying about creeping past the sensors.
However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
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Originally Posted by razor02097
Brakes can be overpowered when just doing a brake stand launch... a trans brake allows you to hold the rpms right in the powerband with out worrying about creeping past the sensors.
However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
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I don't understand your statement... A high stall torque converter doesn't hold you at the line... A trans brake and torque converter has 2 different functions.
Originally Posted by razor02097
I don't understand your statement... A high stall torque converter doesn't hold you at the line... A trans brake and torque converter has 2 different functions.
It still kills me how some guy comes in stating hebuilt his girls stang, and his DD is some beast of a car.....
...yet he can't figure out how to launch his Jeep.
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thats what i was wondering and i was also wondering why a "detune" on the gf's stang and have a intake and full exhaust just to take the power back out
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I can launch my jeep. just fine. I'm not dumping money into new leafs, shackles, u joint swap. Would be ideal. but not practical. Would rather just launch in 4 wheel, as every other guy racing a truck does especially diesel.
Either way, I got other issues now, my top end power is gone, I never changed the fuel filter, plugs, or wires so I gotta see if I can get it back. Are crank sensors adjustable?
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I don't think i follow you.
I can launch my jeep. just fine. I'm not dumping money into new leafs, shackles, u joint swap. Would be ideal. but not practical. Would rather just launch in 4 wheel, as every other guy racing a truck does especially diesel.
Either way, I got other issues now, my top end power is gone, I never changed the fuel filter, plugs, or wires so I gotta see if I can get it back. Are crank sensors adjustable?
Replace with junkyard parts if you can't afford new. Or just park it till you can fix it right.
And no, crank sensor is not adjustable
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