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Old May 13, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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lol. silly.

Car on the left is the car I'm racing It's my girl's car I just finished putting together.

MY DAILY DRIVER IS ON THE RIGHT. its a 93 5.0 stock. Not shown is my strip car.


the rattle canned rig, when i sold it.
srt4 tool couldnt handle all the issues, so he spent 2 grand on repairs, and gave it back for half what i sold it for. Pretty much installed new oil pan, gasket, all new pads rotors, shoes and hardware front and back, new brake lines, new shocks, shampood interior, new rad air horns, and took chicks off the back window cuz of his gf. sold it back when he couldnt figure out a simple fuel line issue. sold for 1400. bought back for 800 a month later
Then fix your sig... which says your cherokee is your daily driver.

GF's car looks pretty nice, but seems like an opposite sleeper if it's pushing to only get into the 14's.


+1 on what S14unimog said as well. A 4k dump in those cars is just going to bog and stutter.... even slipping at 4k is a little low. Like he said, drop the 4wd and beef up the rear... you'd be fine with some nice tires at the right psi.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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This thread is getting better.

And that vid of the XJ racing, I call BS. You never get a clear shot of the launch or start. Its a quick truck, I just think the cars are setups.

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Old May 13, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by s14unimog
That is not at all how the EVO and STI guys do it; if they know what they are doing. The best way to launch an AWD car is to slip the clutch excessively. If you just dump it, and don't have enough power to burn throughout the gear, it'll just settle and bog. My old roommate had a decently modified EVO VIII and his fastest ET's resulted from a Kevlar clutch and careful slip control so that it wouldn't bog and wouldn't explode his center diff.

All of this is irrelevant. You don't make NEAR enough power to really need 4wd. You would do much better to remove those components, for the weight savings, and beef up the rear u-joint straps.

I've got a 430whp 240sx that I can keep under control in a launch. You shouldn't have any problem with an old XJ....
I have no idea how they launch, I'm a RWD guy and know RWD would work best.

wouldnt want to convert to 2wd bc its a 4x4 my girl and I share when there is salt on the roads and dont want to go out in the snow salt and ice with stangs.

Idea was to make the run, in 4x4. Cause the strap clamps, leafs and rusty shackles won't hold.

I'm probably going to scrap the idea, It's getting too serious. I got cars to go fast in. I wanted to pull it off in an XJ with just a few bolt ons and weight mods. Something completely not designed for what I intended to use it for...

Sounded good. But if its not possible to dump a launch in 4hi and drop it to 2wheel at 60 foot gear shift. I probably won't do it. Its not doing anything in 2 wheel without breaking something or getting traction.

I forsee wheel spin anyway. I got 2 open diffs. If i'm spinning lightly, I may not break TC
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Old May 13, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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For Drag racing I honestly would go with an Automatic with manual shifter and a trans brake.
Nothing launches and shifts faster IMHO.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 88GTBlack
I have no idea how they launch, I'm a RWD guy and know RWD would work best.

wouldnt want to convert to 2wd bc its a 4x4 my girl and I share when there is salt on the roads and dont want to go out in the snow salt and ice with stangs.

Idea was to make the run, in 4x4. Cause the strap clamps, leafs and rusty shackles won't hold.

I'm probably going to scrap the idea, It's getting too serious. I got cars to go fast in. I wanted to pull it off in an XJ with just a few bolt ons and weight mods. Something completely not designed for what I intended to use it for...

Sounded good. But if its not possible to dump a launch in 4hi and drop it to 2wheel at 60 foot gear shift. I probably won't do it. Its not doing anything in 2 wheel without breaking something or getting traction.

I forsee wheel spin anyway. I got 2 open diffs. If i'm spinning lightly, I may not break TC
you should still fix your jeep, if it is really in the condition you say it is, then it should not be on the road at all. fix it right, before you hurt somebody.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepingDan
For Drag racing I honestly would go with an Automatic with manual shifter and a trans brake.
Nothing launches and shifts faster IMHO.
an automatic with a transbrake is a joke to me in anything thats not running in the sub 9's.... imo
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Old May 16, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Brakes can be overpowered when just doing a brake stand launch... a trans brake allows you to hold the rpms right in the powerband with out worrying about creeping past the sensors.

However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by razor02097
Brakes can be overpowered when just doing a brake stand launch... a trans brake allows you to hold the rpms right in the powerband with out worrying about creeping past the sensors.

However in a 4.0 the power is pretty much off idle so a trans brake shouldn't be necessary.
A higher stall torque converter will do just fine. No need for a trans brake on a street car/ part time racer.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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I don't understand your statement... A high stall torque converter doesn't hold you at the line... A trans brake and torque converter has 2 different functions.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by razor02097
I don't understand your statement... A high stall torque converter doesn't hold you at the line... A trans brake and torque converter has 2 different functions.
He is saying you don't need a trans brake with a high stall TC because the brakes should be able to hold it since it's not putting out a lot of tq yet. At least that's what I got from it
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Old May 16, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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He is saying you don't need a trans brake with a high stall TC because the brakes should be able to hold it since it's not putting out a lot of tq yet. At least that's what I got from it
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It still kills me how some guy comes in stating hebuilt his girls stang, and his DD is some beast of a car.....

...yet he can't figure out how to launch his Jeep.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
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It still kills me how some guy comes in stating hebuilt his girls stang, and his DD is some beast of a car.....

...yet he can't figure out how to launch his Jeep.

thats what i was wondering and i was also wondering why a "detune" on the gf's stang and have a intake and full exhaust just to take the power back out
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Old May 17, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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put slicks in the rear in 2hi ive seen 500 hp cars dead hook. i can deadhook my 5 speed jeep on 31s like its my job, and yes its posi
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Old May 17, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by peppers xj
thats what i was wondering and i was also wondering why a "detune" on the gf's stang and have a intake and full exhaust just to take the power back out
I don't think i follow you.

I can launch my jeep. just fine. I'm not dumping money into new leafs, shackles, u joint swap. Would be ideal. but not practical. Would rather just launch in 4 wheel, as every other guy racing a truck does especially diesel.

Either way, I got other issues now, my top end power is gone, I never changed the fuel filter, plugs, or wires so I gotta see if I can get it back. Are crank sensors adjustable?
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Old May 17, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 88GTBlack

I don't think i follow you.

I can launch my jeep. just fine. I'm not dumping money into new leafs, shackles, u joint swap. Would be ideal. but not practical. Would rather just launch in 4 wheel, as every other guy racing a truck does especially diesel.

Either way, I got other issues now, my top end power is gone, I never changed the fuel filter, plugs, or wires so I gotta see if I can get it back. Are crank sensors adjustable?
I think the main thing you are missing here is that taking a jeep to the track or even driving on the street with the problems you are stating it has, is irresponsible and unsafe.

Replace with junkyard parts if you can't afford new. Or just park it till you can fix it right.

And no, crank sensor is not adjustable
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