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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 04:56 PM
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Default Emergency brake lever help please.. (Round peg, square hole)

So I bought my son a 8.25 from a pick and pull and it came bare bones. Trying to get the rear brakes sorted but need the emergency brake levers. I've searched online but all I find are ones with a round post for attachment to the shoe. I need them with the rectangular peg as the round ones just won't work..

Anyone know where we can order the correct ones from? (it's a 99 xj with 9 inch brakes) Thanks!
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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I think I would cruise the pick and pull and look for what you need. That would be the easiest I think. Those parts don't have to be new to work right
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 12:20 AM
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You aren't finding any emergency brake levers because the XJ does not have an emergency brake. Not one model year came with an emergency brake.

I think the last car to be built with an emergency brake was before WWII.

The "e-brake" mentality has been responsible for a lot of accidents. Yank that thing during an emergency and you are almost certain to lose control. Can it help in some emergencies? Of course! But very rarely.

That doesn't mean that's what it's there for. It's far more likely to get you in more trouble.

It's a parking brake. It should be used every time you park your car.

Try searching on "parking brake levers" and you might have better success.


The saddest part is this guy being surprised that yanking on the "e-brake" caused him to lose control.


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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 04:42 AM
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Yank that thing during an emergency and you are almost certain to lose control. Can it help in some emergencies? Of course! But very rarely.
Panic like that guy did and it's only going to end badly. There was a recall in the early 2000's, at least on UK XJ's, for the front disks separating and it happened to my dad. The parking brake was the only thing that stopped him crashing. I was told that the foot brake just gave up, I don't know if it was the ABS not knowing how to react or what.
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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Does the stud on the arm not fit into the hole in the shoe? It doesn't really matter that the hole isn't round. In fact square peg in square hole won't rotate like it should.
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 07:50 PM
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measure the ID of the brake drum, just with a ruler will be fine, post the dimensions, should be 9" or 10"

post a pic of the old parts laying next to the new ones (with a ruler in shot)

only take apart one side
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Hopefully OP has figured it out by now.
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lawsoncl
Hopefully OP has figured it out by now.
Indeed,

This answer was intended to be for a post about brake shoes that dont fit,

so its here by mistake for some reason?...probably "similar thread" who knows, I will go back and see if I can insert the answer in the right post
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Sorry been busy, ive got a dana 35, and now im assuming ive got 9" drums i didnt even know there was different size drums for the xj, i just went what ebay said will fit mine and yea they dont, this is the ebay number and them ones say 10" ebay item number 323919897751 anyone got part numbers for a 9" non abs drum pads and brake pistons
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 05:02 PM
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You can't always believe what eBay sellers say. Who did you get them from? Looks like it could've been "Jeep-Chrysler" in Birmingham (I think); how/why they're allowed to trade under that name has always puzzled me - but it's a decent enough outfit, so message them with the problem, they've probably got the right ones & will be keen to avoid a refund. Failing that, just send 'em back under the eBay guarantee scheme.

Didn't know there were any non-ABS export models, must be a 2.5 thing, but pretty sure the brakes are common across the board. I bought my wheel cylinders from O'Reilly's (in Two Harbors, MN - literally next door to where I was staying: heaven!) but I'm sure I got the shoes here, but can't find any details.

I've never used part numbers but casting my experienced eye over the options on eBay this:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274871598...3ABFBMop7-wKli
looks like your best bet
or if you don't really need the fitting kit
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314587551...3ABFBMpp7-wKli

You could punt round for cylinders but you might as well ask whoever you go to for the shoe, because they're both big reputable firms who will almost certainly have them, at a reasonable price.

A word of caution if/when changing wheel cylinders, you will almost certainly destroy the brake pipes, which, in itself, is just a nuisance but you will need to save the unions because the seat is quite different to any we can get. I found out too late, but fortunately knew someone who could work magic with a lathe.

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Originally Posted by UKXJ
A word of caution if/when changing wheel cylinders, you will almost certainly destroy the brake pipes, which, in itself, is just a nuisance but you will need to save the unions because the seat is quite different to any we can get. I found out too late, but fortunately knew someone who could work magic with a lathe.
Are you speaking of the metal lines that run along the rear axle tube ?

One of mine, I suspect may be partially blocked, and I want to replace it, and I would probably elect to either make one myself from Cunifer, or have my local brake shop make one

Did the Union rust and twist the pipe, breaking it ?

I had a hard enough time with the front ones, needing to use repeated heat cycling and my special mini alligator-jaw wrench that I use for worst case scenarios, it got the union undone, but did chew the them a bit

Hence I always use anti-seize on these unions. It helps to soak them for weeks in penetrant before trying to get them undone

Do you know if the fittings are Metric or Imperial ?
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by awg
Do you know if the fittings are Metric or Imperial ?
Imperial and IIRC I had to lathe mine to give them a concave taper.
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by awg
Are you speaking of the metal lines that run along the rear axle tube ?
That's them

One of mine, I suspect may be partially blocked, and I want to replace it, and I would probably elect to either make one myself from Cunifer, or have my local brake shop make one
I got someone I knew to make mine up, just as well because we hadn't appreciated that US unions were different, but it was something he was able to fix.

Did the Union rust and twist the pipe, breaking it ?
Yes, there's just no way that after 20+ years in our climate they're not going to be rusted solid to the unions.

I had a hard enough time with the front ones, needing to use repeated heat cycling and my special mini alligator-jaw wrench that I use for worst case scenarios, it got the union undone, but did chew the them a bit
Don't remember any particular problem separating the soft line from the hard one when I replaced a caliper years ago but replacing the rear soft line was a real PITA., mainly because visibility & access are so bad!

Hence I always use anti-seize on these unions. It helps to soak them for weeks in penetrant before trying to get them undone
Me too. Soaking is fine if it's planned maintenance, but all too often it's urgent repairs because of (imminent) brake failure; like when when my rear soft line tore out of the metal fitting at the end where it screws into the block on the axle.

Do you know if the fittings are Metric or Imperial ?
I'd have assumed metric - but I'd have been wrong
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by boxburn
Imperial and IIRC I had to lathe mine to give them a concave taper.
Seems you also learned the hard way that US unions are different; I made a mental note to pick up a handful on my next visit but now don't know when that'll be thanks to the DHS's post-Covid rule changes.

That's why I added a note of caution as unlikely OP will be in a position to modify our unions to fit so as to seal..
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