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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
I'm going that big to clear big tires for running in snow. I already have a wheeler so I'm not to concerned about trails. My buddys neighbor had one with a 12" short arm and cleared 35s with no trimming
ya right. short arms with a 12".................

thats the idiotic idea I have heard in a very very long time. thanks I needed the laugh
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Anything is possible with enough fab

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Anything is possible with enough fab
this is true. but 12" with a short arm is not.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xjoffroad
this is true. but 12" with a short arm is not.
Theres one up here, owner of a garage in stillwater has it. Dont jump to conclusions.

He also has a E-250 with 18" of lift that sits in a bay.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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this is what you want for deep snow. nice wide tires to spread your weight out. otherwise you'll sink and drag your axles. they will act like plows and get you stuck.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel;655248[B
]Theres one up here, owner of a garage in stillwater has it. Dont jump to conclusions.
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He also has a E-250 with 18" of lift that sits in a bay.
short arm with a 12" lift? seriously doubt a so called "shop owner" would have that. the short arms would be binding to much for it to even work. Im sure the "shop owner" extended it short arms. if he did this it wouldnt be a short arm lift...............
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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maybe he has really tall drop brackets?
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Over and over it keeps being said narrow tires are better for snow, that is not necessarily true. Look at the Jeeps/4 wheel drives over in Iceland, the snow is deep and they want to stay on top of the snow which they do by displacing the weight of their vehicle over wide tires.

Now in some cases where traction is a premium a narrow tire that cuts through the snow and down to solid ground is better, of course that only works when the snow is not super deep.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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The only time a narrow tire is better in snow is if it the snow is shallower then your axles. Even then it is a menial difference. I run 33x12.50 and have not once said to myself, man I wish I had narrower tires.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CheapCherokee
maybe he has really tall drop brackets?

For the amount of work just make some freaking long arms. At that sort of height even long arms are gonna have a terrible angle. Most XJ long arms kits work best at around 4.5-5.5 inches. Over that and they get angled at ride height just as much as your short arm kit.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sandaddik2
I thought of this thread when i saw this... lol

Lifted XJ

Holy cherokee-zilla!!
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyalXJ
this is what you want for deep snow. nice wide tires to spread your weight out. otherwise you'll sink and drag your axles. they will act like plows and get you stuck.
That thing is sick. Anyone know what kind of flares those are?
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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Ummm...to everyone arguing about skinny vs wide. It *does not* matter what you run in regards to surface area contacting the ground. Assuming identical PSI you will have the same surface area wide or skinny. The difference is the orientation of these surface areas. So anyways the skinny tire is probably gonna be better because it doesn't have to pack down as much snow IE less resistance.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
You never want to stay on top of the deep stuff, that makes it more slick.
Originally Posted by Diesel
Simex Extreme Trekkers are big here, in NJ, PA and Upstate ny........where we get multiple feet of snow annually.

We went wheeling in Montana about 2 years ago in 4+ft with the trekkers, we had to winch out guys with >13.5/12.5.

Its not opinion, Im sorry, thinner tires are better for snow while wider are better for ice. Theres no arguement, tests have been done, proof has been shown.
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Outside of Scobey, Snow 4+ft deep, about 35PSI cold. Ive flown to never never land.......no I dont have proof. Sounds legit huh?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Are+thinner+tir...res+in+snow%3F

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+do+ice+rall...inner+tires%3F
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Theres one up here, owner of a garage in stillwater has it. Dont jump to conclusions.

He also has a E-250 with 18" of lift that sits in a bay.
Originally Posted by Dan91
Ummm...to everyone arguing about skinny vs wide. It *does not* matter what you run in regards to surface area contacting the ground. Assuming identical PSI you will have the same surface area wide or skinny. The difference is the orientation of these surface areas. So anyways the skinny tire is probably gonna be better because it doesn't have to pack down as much snow IE less resistance.

I needed a good laugh.



FOR THOSE OF YOU PONDERING WIDE VS SKINNY.. PLEASE DO A GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH FOR "ICELAND 4X4"

Diesel.. Please restrain from posting Ignorant False Information without at-least having some facts straight.

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nw-xj-scott
FOR THOSE OF YOU PONDERING WIDE VS SKINNY.. PLEASE DO A GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH FOR "ICELAND 4X4"

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