BIG lift ?
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Now please, stop wasting peoples times with your fairytales.
"This is always a compromise. The best tire to cut through deep snow is a narrow one. The worst is a wide one"-Taken from www.Snowtire.info
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_9...ity/index.html
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Year: 1993
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Drop brackets ans sleeves.. Many people have large lifts with SA's still on it. I had SA's up to 5.5 than long armed it when i went to 6.5.
Please restrain from incorrect and downright ignorant posts. Now, lets review. I have been in snow up to about 4.5ft. In a Jeep, with 6.5" of suspension lift, with 35" Tires, I have used Simex 35x9.5, Procomp 35x12.5, and TSL 35x15.50. The Thinner tires performed the best in that snow, I had no packing under the axle problems, nor did any of the locals that live there year round, it cut right through the snow and with almost no tire spin the whole trip. Later in that trip I decided to put my TSL's on, thats when the nightmare started. The jeep would ride on the snow for about 10ft, then one tire would fall through about 3ft, it was a pain to get out of that multiple times. Than coming back down just past the peak, where the sun is the strongest on the mountain, all the tires fell through while I was moving about 10mph, I packed snow in front of me, and had to be winched out from my reciever hitch. Now, in snow that would exceed my bumpers height, I would have gone with wider tires, but if the snows depth does not go up to your bumper, thinner tires have the upper hand in traction. Again, I was not saying to to contradict anyone or to waste my time. Its fact, Montana, Alaska, PA, NY, NJ, Ohio, North Dakota. I have wheeled there in the winter, everyone recommends thinner tires for the snow. Hence why Rausch Creek, PA(very well known offroad park) is full of jeeps and trucks with 9.5 or 10.5 wide tires in the winter.
Now please, stop wasting peoples times with your fairytales.
"This is always a compromise. The best tire to cut through deep snow is a narrow one. The worst is a wide one"-Taken from www.Snowtire.info
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_9...ity/index.html
Please restrain from incorrect and downright ignorant posts. Now, lets review. I have been in snow up to about 4.5ft. In a Jeep, with 6.5" of suspension lift, with 35" Tires, I have used Simex 35x9.5, Procomp 35x12.5, and TSL 35x15.50. The Thinner tires performed the best in that snow, I had no packing under the axle problems, nor did any of the locals that live there year round, it cut right through the snow and with almost no tire spin the whole trip. Later in that trip I decided to put my TSL's on, thats when the nightmare started. The jeep would ride on the snow for about 10ft, then one tire would fall through about 3ft, it was a pain to get out of that multiple times. Than coming back down just past the peak, where the sun is the strongest on the mountain, all the tires fell through while I was moving about 10mph, I packed snow in front of me, and had to be winched out from my reciever hitch. Now, in snow that would exceed my bumpers height, I would have gone with wider tires, but if the snows depth does not go up to your bumper, thinner tires have the upper hand in traction. Again, I was not saying to to contradict anyone or to waste my time. Its fact, Montana, Alaska, PA, NY, NJ, Ohio, North Dakota. I have wheeled there in the winter, everyone recommends thinner tires for the snow. Hence why Rausch Creek, PA(very well known offroad park) is full of jeeps and trucks with 9.5 or 10.5 wide tires in the winter.
Now please, stop wasting peoples times with your fairytales.
"This is always a compromise. The best tire to cut through deep snow is a narrow one. The worst is a wide one"-Taken from www.Snowtire.info
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_9...ity/index.html
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Checked it out, again they are talking of snow tires made to drive on the highway. Yes if I want good tires on the wifes car I will look for narrower tires. If I'm looking to go snow wheeling I'll want wider tires. As far as fairytales go the biggest fairytale I've seen lately is that you went snow wheeling in Montana with your skinny tires and didn't get stuck if the snow was anywhere 4 foot deep. As far wasting peoples time, you should stop.
Now, that the facts are straight, Im done feeding your ignorance and idiocy. And Im sure your school doesnt appreciate you using the computer for this and not paying attention in class.
End of Arguement.
Edit-Siping and grooving come into play as well in snow wheeling. and pirates getting a kick outta your posts.
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Drop brackets ans sleeves.. Many people have large lifts with SA's still on it. I had SA's up to 5.5 than long armed it when i went to 6.5.
Please restrain from incorrect and downright ignorant posts. Now, lets review. I have been in snow up to about 4.5ft. In a Jeep, with 6.5" of suspension lift, with 35" Tires, I have used Simex 35x9.5, Procomp 35x12.5, and TSL 35x15.50. The Thinner tires performed the best in that snow, I had no packing under the axle problems, nor did any of the locals that live there year round, it cut right through the snow and with almost no tire spin the whole trip. Later in that trip I decided to put my TSL's on, thats when the nightmare started. The jeep would ride on the snow for about 10ft, then one tire would fall through about 3ft, it was a pain to get out of that multiple times. Than coming back down just past the peak, where the sun is the strongest on the mountain, all the tires fell through while I was moving about 10mph, I packed snow in front of me, and had to be winched out from my reciever hitch. Now, in snow that would exceed my bumpers height, I would have gone with wider tires, but if the snows depth does not go up to your bumper, thinner tires have the upper hand in traction. Again, I was not saying to to contradict anyone or to waste my time. Its fact, Montana, Alaska, PA, NY, NJ, Ohio, North Dakota. I have wheeled there in the winter, everyone recommends thinner tires for the snow. Hence why Rausch Creek, PA(very well known offroad park) is full of jeeps and trucks with 9.5 or 10.5 wide tires in the winter.
Now please, stop wasting peoples times with your fairytales.
"This is always a compromise. The best tire to cut through deep snow is a narrow one. The worst is a wide one"-Taken from www.Snowtire.info
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_9...ity/index.html
Please restrain from incorrect and downright ignorant posts. Now, lets review. I have been in snow up to about 4.5ft. In a Jeep, with 6.5" of suspension lift, with 35" Tires, I have used Simex 35x9.5, Procomp 35x12.5, and TSL 35x15.50. The Thinner tires performed the best in that snow, I had no packing under the axle problems, nor did any of the locals that live there year round, it cut right through the snow and with almost no tire spin the whole trip. Later in that trip I decided to put my TSL's on, thats when the nightmare started. The jeep would ride on the snow for about 10ft, then one tire would fall through about 3ft, it was a pain to get out of that multiple times. Than coming back down just past the peak, where the sun is the strongest on the mountain, all the tires fell through while I was moving about 10mph, I packed snow in front of me, and had to be winched out from my reciever hitch. Now, in snow that would exceed my bumpers height, I would have gone with wider tires, but if the snows depth does not go up to your bumper, thinner tires have the upper hand in traction. Again, I was not saying to to contradict anyone or to waste my time. Its fact, Montana, Alaska, PA, NY, NJ, Ohio, North Dakota. I have wheeled there in the winter, everyone recommends thinner tires for the snow. Hence why Rausch Creek, PA(very well known offroad park) is full of jeeps and trucks with 9.5 or 10.5 wide tires in the winter.
Now please, stop wasting peoples times with your fairytales.
"This is always a compromise. The best tire to cut through deep snow is a narrow one. The worst is a wide one"-Taken from www.Snowtire.info
http://www.motortrend.com/womt/112_9...ity/index.html
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BFG couldnt keep up with the demand for the 9.5" tires. Best selling locations were in States/Countries with snow. Gotta say something, Simex sells more 9.5" tires than anything. When I went to Montana we wheeled with about twenty or so locals, all had 9.5-10.5 tires. I stated the problems with wide tires in snow. Anyone who actually knows what wheeling in the snow is like knows what I mean. Above Bumper-Wide, Below-Thin.
Now, that the facts are straight, Im done feeding your ignorance and idiocy. And Im sure your school doesnt appreciate you using the computer for this and not paying attention in class.
End of Arguement.
Edit-Siping and grooving come into play as well in snow wheeling. and pirates getting a kick outta your posts.
Now, that the facts are straight, Im done feeding your ignorance and idiocy. And Im sure your school doesnt appreciate you using the computer for this and not paying attention in class.
End of Arguement.
Edit-Siping and grooving come into play as well in snow wheeling. and pirates getting a kick outta your posts.
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Myth: Wide tires provide better traction under all weather conditions. In fact, putting oversize snow tires on a car delivers better snow traction.
Fact: The opposite is actually true. Wide tires tend to "float" on deep snow, and the tread lugs never have a chance to "dig" through to the road surface to gain traction. Narrow tires are a better option in deep snow. The tire acts similarly to a knife cutting through butter; the blade works best when using the narrow edge to push through the butter rather than the wide flat side of the blade.
Fact: The opposite is actually true. Wide tires tend to "float" on deep snow, and the tread lugs never have a chance to "dig" through to the road surface to gain traction. Narrow tires are a better option in deep snow. The tire acts similarly to a knife cutting through butter; the blade works best when using the narrow edge to push through the butter rather than the wide flat side of the blade.
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Sorry.. I dont consider Driving in snow on the street "Wheeling" I dont want to "Cut threw the snow to the street" I want to float over the top, and 3psi with 12.50 wide tires on a cherokee do JUST that with most deep snow endeavors.. a 15.50 TSL will do it just aswell.. Unless your an idiot with 35-40psi..
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I haven't done it for long, but i picked up on what others were doing very quickly..
It's not just that the guy is wrong, it's the fact he's an idiot because of his attitude.. I want to know when the last time Motor-trend went on a backroads weekend trip in something other then a Subaru WRX wagon in snow.. When was the last time that "Snowtire.info" went on an exploring trip OFF the interstate? that website was solely intended for City driving in the snow. and what tire will net you best traction on city streets.. I cannot find ANYWHERE on that site that talks about 20 year old jeeps 7000 feet up in elevation 3 days after christmas.. going camping!
It's not just that the guy is wrong, it's the fact he's an idiot because of his attitude.. I want to know when the last time Motor-trend went on a backroads weekend trip in something other then a Subaru WRX wagon in snow.. When was the last time that "Snowtire.info" went on an exploring trip OFF the interstate? that website was solely intended for City driving in the snow. and what tire will net you best traction on city streets.. I cannot find ANYWHERE on that site that talks about 20 year old jeeps 7000 feet up in elevation 3 days after christmas.. going camping!
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Why dont you throw another name drop in there. You are member of Pirate 4x4, that's nice and all, but you are still wrong.
Narrow tires are great if you are running shallow *** snow. Please explain to me the logic that in 3+ feet of snow you want to have narrow tires to dig in deep.
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these vehicles are from iceland and norway. it snows there more than anywhere in our country. they set their vehicles up like this for a reason..... moron
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