Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

BIG lift ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 08:39 AM
  #31  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by thelaststarfighter13
on a tire that wide you have to watch your backspacing depending on the tire you use. If you have shallow backspacing so the tires don't rub the inner fenders all the time you put alot of stress on the bearings and they will go out. Same if you use wheel spacers. On 33's and below not such a biggie but on those 35's well your gettin in the bearing wear zone there especially when we start talkin bout real wide ones.

Only way around that is an even backspacing that puts the tire centered around the bearing on the hub but for that to work you need a much wider axle.

IF your gonna do it go all the way!

What kinda snow you talking about. Like up and down the road snow or back country try to stay on top of the deep stuff?
You never want to stay on top of the deep stuff, that makes it more slick.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 08:59 AM
  #32  
BlueOx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley,WA
Year: 86
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 FI
Default

95% backcountry type stuff where I'm at we get snow in town maybe a week a year
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:17 AM
  #33  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Dont even worry about tires than, get whatever ones you want.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:25 AM
  #34  
BlueOx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley,WA
Year: 86
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 FI
Default

What would be the easiest full width axles to swap in?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:32 AM
  #35  
superj's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,004
Likes: 40
From: corpus christi, texas
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

not to be rude, but have you tried the search button? it seems you are just throwing random things out with no fore thought put in at all. maybe do some reading for a while and then ask more specific questions about certain details?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:41 AM
  #36  
Rock Toy's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 3
From: Cove, OR
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Diesel
You'd be skiing all over the place.

35x9.5 or 10.5 for deep snow.
I've wheeled my rig in four foot of snow. Have you ever tried driving your 35x9.5 or 35x10 inch in four foot of snow? You've stated many times on this web site the 35s that are 9.5 & 10 inches wide are the way to go in deep snow. Sense I've had to pull guys with those size tires all over in three and four foot of snow I'm just wondering what brand of tire you use and how much air you run in them so you can do what no one I've ever wheeled with can do?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:51 AM
  #37  
BlueOx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley,WA
Year: 86
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 FI
Default

Originally Posted by superj
not to be rude, but have you tried the search button? it seems you are just throwing random things out with no fore thought put in at all. maybe do some reading for a while and then ask more specific questions about certain details?
Yeah I know didn't think to till after I posted it. It had came up a few times in this thread so I figured id ask.
And if no one asked the same questions there would be no new threads.

Last edited by BlueOx; Sep 2, 2010 at 09:54 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:51 AM
  #38  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by Rock Toy
I've wheeled my rig in four foot of snow. Have you ever tried driving your 35x9.5 or 35x10 inch in four foot of snow? You've stated many times on this web site the 35s that are 9.5 & 10 inches wide are the way to go in deep snow. Sense I've had to pull guys with those size tires all over in three and four foot of snow I'm just wondering what brand of tire you use and how much air you run in them so you can do what no one I've ever wheeled with can do?
Simex Extreme Trekkers are big here, in NJ, PA and Upstate ny........where we get multiple feet of snow annually.

We went wheeling in Montana about 2 years ago in 4+ft with the trekkers, we had to winch out guys with >13.5/12.5.

Its not opinion, Im sorry, thinner tires are better for snow while wider are better for ice. Theres no arguement, tests have been done, proof has been shown.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:23 AM
  #39  
Rock Toy's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 3
From: Cove, OR
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Diesel
Simex Extreme Trekkers are big here, in NJ, PA and Upstate ny........where we get multiple feet of snow annually.

We went wheeling in Montana about 2 years ago in 4+ft with the trekkers, we had to winch out guys with >13.5/12.5.

Its not opinion, Im sorry, thinner tires are better for snow while wider are better for ice. Theres no arguement, tests have been done, proof has been shown.
What proof? Where in Montana? I have wheeled in Montana and I have pulled guys running narrow tires out all over Montana and Washington and Oregon. What air pressure are you doing this on? I'm familiar with Simex Extreme Trekkers they are great mud tires they may work in the snow but unless your doing something to them I've never seen before you wont make it as far as someone running a 13.50 inch wide IROC in really deep snow.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:34 AM
  #40  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by Rock Toy
What proof? Where in Montana? I have wheeled in Montana and I have pulled guys running narrow tires out all over Montana and Washington and Oregon. What air pressure are you doing this on? I'm familiar with Simex Extreme Trekkers they are great mud tires they may work in the snow but unless your doing something to them I've never seen before you wont make it as far as someone running a 13.50 inch wide IROC in really deep snow.
Outside of Scobey, Snow 4+ft deep, about 35PSI cold. Ive flown to never never land.......no I dont have proof. Sounds legit huh?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Are+thinner+tir...res+in+snow%3F

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+do+ice+rall...inner+tires%3F
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:04 AM
  #41  
Rock Toy's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 3
From: Cove, OR
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Diesel
Outside of Scobey, Snow 4+ft deep, about 35PSI cold. Ive flown to never never land.......no I dont have proof. Sounds legit huh?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Are+thinner+tir...res+in+snow%3F

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+do+ice+rall...inner+tires%3F
The web sites I looked at were all talking about driving on roads in snowy conditions not deep snow and as far as rally cars using narrow tires I do not think they are running a rally in 4 foot of snow. With 35 psi I think you would sink and go no where.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:11 AM
  #42  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Do you want a shovel?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:28 AM
  #43  
Jeepguy333's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default Idk

I seriously doubt the 12" short arm statement. Mine was on 6.5 with short arms and it was nuts. It set the axle way back in the front. So twice that? Idk your Dana 30 would be right under your butt.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:29 AM
  #44  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by Jeepguy333
I seriously doubt the 12" short arm statement. Mine was on 6.5 with short arms and it was nuts. It set the axle way back in the front. So twice that? Idk your Dana 30 would be right under your butt.
It was extended.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 11:31 AM
  #45  
BlueOx's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Sedro-Woolley,WA
Year: 86
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 FI
Default

Originally Posted by Jeepguy333
I seriously doubt the 12" short arm statement. Mine was on 6.5 with short arms and it was nuts. It set the axle way back in the front. So twice that? Idk your Dana 30 would be right under your butt.
He did it. He extended aftermarket ones. It was his wifes DD so it must have drove fine.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 PM.