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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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My two cents, if I may as I run a Powertrax in the rear (love it by the way).
Throttle is irrelivent, as many have already stated the unit differentiates between the rotation of both sides, if one is greater than the other it unlocks. I have a habit of jumping out in to traffic with a quick punch and turn as A-holes around here will kill you before they'll let you out.
I have no chirp through the turn and as I straighten her out I notice the difference as it locks back up, yeah buddy, thats what traction feels like!
Mind you this is on the street, the locker behaves quite differently in four low and first gear on rock, the low speed, low end torque seems to make it wanna stay locked. My last Moab trip it chirped like it was welded in that situation, on the street or offroad, I love it, and highly recommend it both on and offroad.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Ok i read the little fight that has been had. Now. Is a p-trax honestly the best idea to be putting into a C8.25?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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What fight? No such animal as "the best"......just gotta read up, make a decision and pull the trigger. If I didn't think the P-Trax was a awesome unit for the price, "bang for the buck", the XJ wouldn't be the 4th vehicle I've installed them in. I just like the idea of a simple install, it's fully automatic street or off road.

I'm glad somebody else said "throttle is irrelevant", thanks Desert Rat, hope others gain a better understanding of auto lockers, especially the P-Trax.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Ok so whats the advantages of a auto locking compared to a manual locking? I mean seriously. I dont want a whole talk about how 1 brand is better then another. Seriousness is key please.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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With a manual locker, u gotta push a botton, flip a switch, turn it on/off. A manual locker, when engaged, is no differential at all, performs like a spool, miserable on pavement (very strong). When disengaged, it's a plain old open diff (one tire fire). Full ring/pinion set-up required to install a manual locker. Auto locker is automatic, no ring/pinion set up, 2-3 hour install with simple tools.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383
With a manual locker, u gotta push a botton, flip a switch, turn it on/off. A manual locker, when engaged, is no differential at all, performs like a spool, miserable on pavement (very strong). When disengaged, it's a plain old open diff (one tire fire). Full ring/pinion set-up required to install a manual locker. Auto locker is automatic, no ring/pinion set up, 2-3 hour install with simple tools.
Ok. So i understand the manual is a crap load more expensive. So im gonna guess. and this is just a guess. the Ptrax is the best on and offroad?

Also. what kind of locker would you put in the front then?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Axel1831
Ok. So i understand the manual is a crap load more expensive. So im gonna guess. and this is just a guess. the Ptrax is the best on and offroad?

Also. what kind of locker would you put in the front then?
Negative, I never said P-Trax was "the best"......I said there's no such animal as "the best". I like the P-Trax because I'm familiar with it, it's tame for a daily driver, they don't ratchet/click in turns and are easy to install. Others swear by Aussie, Spartan, etc. May not need to lock the front.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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iv always ran used detroit lockers i find for cheap. if ur patient you can find one for about $300 and your going to break a lot of things before that locker thinks about giving up
they arent as bad on the street as a lock right either
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Originally Posted by djb383
Negative, I never said P-Trax was "the best"......I said there's no such animal as "the best". I like the P-Trax because I'm familiar with it, it's tame for a daily driver, they don't ratchet/click in turns and are easy to install. Others swear by Aussie, Spartan, etc. May not need to lock the front.
Well. That makes sense. So... I need to find more info on other lockers.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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I believe the Detroit requires a case removal which requires a full ring/pinion set-up.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Axel1831
Ok. So i understand the manual is a crap load more expensive. So im gonna guess. and this is just a guess. the Ptrax is the best on and offroad?

Also. what kind of locker would you put in the front then?
The ptrax is a lunchbox locker meaning it takes the place of the spider gears in your stock diff. If you have a posi from the factory, you'll have to get and open carrier or a more expensive version of the ptrax that works with the posi carrier (not real sure that's available for all Jeep axles). There are full carrier models such as the detriot locker that are much stronger but expensive and overkill for most Jeep applications. If you get any kind of auto locker in the front, it will make steering a little more difficult in 4 wheel drive but you probably won't notice it in 2 wheel for reasons I've already mention 50 pages ago. If you have a selectable locker in the front, you can turn it off and on depending on if you need it or not. If you opt for a front posi, it will steer easier in all situation but probably won't get you anywhere if a front tire ends up in the air. Auburn makes an electric locker called the ected that is a posi turned off and a spool turned on but it's $$$$$ and you have to have posi additive for it to work properly. The electric lockers are the best hands down but they are expensive. Most people run an auto locker in the rear and a selectable locker in the front
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Axel1831
Well. That makes sense. So... I need to find more info on other lockers.
The more info you read (Google) the more u'll learn/understand about traction enhanced diffs. There are 3 basic kinds of diffs: open, limited slip and locking.....the latter 2 being traction enhanced. There are many brands, types and styles of traction enhanced diffs. Here's a decent video explaining diff performance. Forget the fact that it says Eaton G80, that's just one of the many brands/styles of locking diffs.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by djb383
I believe the Detroit requires a case removal which requires a full ring/pinion set-up.
yes they do. but i will swear by them that they are the best imo.

if you have sub 35s then buy a lunchbox theyre simple and cheapish.

a few people i know have aussies and they work great. my vote is for aussie if your looking for a lunchbox locker
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