96 or 97 axles into an 88?
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96 or 97 axles into an 88?
Would this work?
Reason why im asking is because i dont really understand the concept of c-clip and non c-clip.
All i know is which ones have it or not.
My d35 is a non c-clip witn non ABS.
I found a 97 with both axles and has the 29 spline 8.25. But im pretty sure these are c-clip.
So what would i have to do to make this work?
I wanna swap out both to have the same gear ratio and get rid of my vac disco.
Is this correct? Am i making sense? lol
I also found a 96 that was made in august, Would this have the 29 spline since its the second part of the cut off year?
If some one can chime in to shed some light on me so i can do more research and search the jy's to do this right.
Thanks in advance.
Reason why im asking is because i dont really understand the concept of c-clip and non c-clip.
All i know is which ones have it or not.
My d35 is a non c-clip witn non ABS.
I found a 97 with both axles and has the 29 spline 8.25. But im pretty sure these are c-clip.
So what would i have to do to make this work?
I wanna swap out both to have the same gear ratio and get rid of my vac disco.
Is this correct? Am i making sense? lol
I also found a 96 that was made in august, Would this have the 29 spline since its the second part of the cut off year?
If some one can chime in to shed some light on me so i can do more research and search the jy's to do this right.
Thanks in advance.
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it should be a direct bolt in cherokee to cherokee. Nothing changed on the mounting etc that Im aware of. I ran a 89 D30 in a 01 model for a while, bolted right up.
Front DS you should be ok on, rear DS im not sure if its different between a D35 and a 8.25..... Someone else can chime in on that.
Front DS you should be ok on, rear DS im not sure if its different between a D35 and a 8.25..... Someone else can chime in on that.
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the driveshaft for the 8.25 is shorter by about an inch, if i remember right. the 8.25 i think made the switch to 29 spline in 97 and since they had extra 27 spline axles, they used those until they were gone. so even some 97's had them. best to just pull an axle and check if you can.
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the driveshaft for the 8.25 is shorter by about an inch, if i remember right. the 8.25 i think made the switch to 29 spline in 97 and since they had extra 27 spline axles, they used those until they were gone. so even some 97's had them. best to just pull an axle and check if you can.
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Just a little backwards on the info. The factory ran out of the 27 spline 8.25s during the end of the 96 model run. Therefore some very late production 96s received the 29 spline 8.25s.
All of the 97 and up 8.25s are equipped with the 29 spline axle shafts.
A 96 with a August production could possibly have the 29 spline 8.25 but the only way to tell is to pull the axle shaft and count the splines.
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it should be a direct bolt in cherokee to cherokee. Nothing changed on the mounting etc that Im aware of. I ran a 89 D30 in a 01 model for a while, bolted right up.
Front DS you should be ok on, rear DS im not sure if its different between a D35 and a 8.25..... Someone else can chime in on that.
Front DS you should be ok on, rear DS im not sure if its different between a D35 and a 8.25..... Someone else can chime in on that.
Or should i jus ****** up both.?
the driveshaft for the 8.25 is shorter by about an inch, if i remember right. the 8.25 i think made the switch to 29 spline in 97 and since they had extra 27 spline axles, they used those until they were gone. so even some 97's had them. best to just pull an axle and check if you can.
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What should i get from the 97 and what should i keep from mine to make it work.
I have the d35 and disco vac d30.
Just a little backwards on the info. The factory ran out of the 27 spline 8.25s during the end of the 96 model run. Therefore some very late production 96s received the 29 spline 8.25s.
All of the 97 and up 8.25s are equipped with the 29 spline axle shafts.
A 96 with a August production could possibly have the 29 spline 8.25 but the only way to tell is to pull the axle shaft and count the splines.
All of the 97 and up 8.25s are equipped with the 29 spline axle shafts.
A 96 with a August production could possibly have the 29 spline 8.25 but the only way to tell is to pull the axle shaft and count the splines.
To check i jus pop off the diff cover and count the teeths of the gears? lol
Ive never counted axle spline before.
Excuse my airheadness, Trying to gain more knowledge on the drive train.
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The only way to know the axle spline count is to pull the axle shaft out and count the splines on the end. It is not hard to do but it is a lot of effort just check it on an axle for sale. I would just pick up the one from the 97 and go with that.
As far as the driveshaft length is concerned, Get it just to be safe. When I upgraded to the 6.5 lift on my 91 I also junked the D35 and put in a 01 8.25. The longer D35 DS, along with a tcase drop pushed the yoke on the tcase back into it's stock position with out causing vibes. At only 4.5 inches you might even be able to take out the tcase drop and regain that lost ground clearance.
As far as the driveshaft length is concerned, Get it just to be safe. When I upgraded to the 6.5 lift on my 91 I also junked the D35 and put in a 01 8.25. The longer D35 DS, along with a tcase drop pushed the yoke on the tcase back into it's stock position with out causing vibes. At only 4.5 inches you might even be able to take out the tcase drop and regain that lost ground clearance.
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The only way to know the axle spline count is to pull the axle shaft out and count the splines on the end. It is not hard to do but it is a lot of effort just check it on an axle for sale. I would just pick up the one from the 97 and go with that.
As far as the driveshaft length is concerned, Get it just to be safe. When I upgraded to the 6.5 lift on my 91 I also junked the D35 and put in a 01 8.25. The longer D35 DS, along with a tcase drop pushed the yoke on the tcase back into it's stock position with out causing vibes. At only 4.5 inches you might even be able to take out the tcase drop and regain that lost ground clearance.
As far as the driveshaft length is concerned, Get it just to be safe. When I upgraded to the 6.5 lift on my 91 I also junked the D35 and put in a 01 8.25. The longer D35 DS, along with a tcase drop pushed the yoke on the tcase back into it's stock position with out causing vibes. At only 4.5 inches you might even be able to take out the tcase drop and regain that lost ground clearance.
Oh wow i was not aware of that, so your saying get the 97 Ds but it might be more beneficial using my D35 DS?
But would my u-joints be the same from the DS and the 8.25 yoke?
Also it wont matter if the tranny is auto compared to my 5 spd, Since automatics have shorter DS?
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Ujoints are the same for the D35 and the 8.25 yoke. The difference in length for the auto and manual trans is something I do not know about. The best advice I have for you there is to measure your stock DS and measure the one in the 97 so there is no confusion. While you are at it, might as well do the u-bolt conversion and get rid of the weak u-straps on the axle yoke.
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Ujoints are the same for the D35 and the 8.25 yoke. The difference in length for the auto and manual trans is something I do not know about. The best advice I have for you there is to measure your stock DS and measure the one in the 97 so there is no confusion. While you are at it, might as well do the u-bolt conversion and get rid of the weak u-straps on the axle yoke.
Bout the u bolt conversion, What exactly do you mean and how is it done.
Are you referring to changing jus the u-bolts since the axle tubes from the 8.25 are bigger than the d35?
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You have some awesome write ups. I loved your front replacement seat thread. Simple but helped alot.
I think i even posted a thread thanking you.
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I do what i can to help others and mine sits on jackstands in the driveway. Still battered and broken from the last wheeling trip on Nov 1st. One of these days, one of these days.
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well im pretty sure shes in good hands with your expertise, Now if she was on my driveway on jackstands (which i only have two lol) i would worry. it would be a long but learning process.
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