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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Guys I understand its been a whyle but maybe he's waiting to see if he can fix it EVERY time I've had a problem they have fixed it, you should be mad! But please call and talk to him if you can't wait and if you call tell him to check the forum lol
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21

The thing is, you shouldn't have to get a relocation box. RC knows their products are garbage and now they have to do something about it instead of ignoring it.
Did you research RC before.you bought? You should have known about the leaves. And now that you have them, you're *****ing about them? Doesn't make any sense to me how all of you are whining about this. Everyone knows the leaves are short. There ate hundreds of threads on them. Even if you spend another $130 on a damn shackle box, they are still cheaper than everyone else. Generallt, you get what you pay for. I bought RC knowing all of these minor issues.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mr white

Did you research RC before.you bought? You should have known about the leaves. And now that you have them, you're *****ing about them? Doesn't make any sense to me how all of you are whining about this. Everyone knows the leaves are short. There ate hundreds of threads on them. Even if you spend another $130 on a damn shackle box, they are still cheaper than everyone else. Generallt, you get what you pay for. I bought RC knowing all of these minor issues.
Lol you actually think I bought RC. I did not buy RC, nor will I ever. I subscribed to this thread to see if RC was going to fix the problem, and it appears that they are not. It shouldn't have these issues, and they are not minor, they are major. Leaf springs too short by a lot, control arm bushings wearing out vet fast, tres wearing out causing death wobble. I agree more people should do research, but this is the only lift company I know of that has so many regular issues. You shouldnt have to buy more parts to make something work when it shouldn't need those parts in the first place. That is a fact. I'm not sure why you are arguing, you must be one of those RC fanboys, huh?
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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The control arm bushings have been fixed as far as I know. My set is fine. I don't understand why you're even pissing and moaning about it. Or really why anyone else is. I knew the issues coming in, and I was prepared to fix them. Yeah, its more work but it saved me close to $1k on a lift.

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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by greenxj21

Lol you actually think I bought RC. I did not buy RC, nor will I ever. I subscribed to this thread to see if RC was going to fix the problem, and it appears that they are not. It shouldn't have these issues, and they are not minor, they are major. Leaf springs too short by a lot, control arm bushings wearing out vet fast, tres wearing out causing death wobble. I agree more people should do research, but this is the only lift company I know of that has so many regular issues. You shouldnt have to buy more parts to make something work when it shouldn't need those parts in the first place. That is a fact. I'm not sure why you are arguing, you must be one of those RC fanboys, huh?
I'm not an RC fanboy. I am fully.aware it is an entry level lift. I'm just saying I don't understand how people can read a ****load of.reviews online and then still buy it knowing the issues and then ***** about it when they get it. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They could just charge $100 more for the kit and throw in relocation boxes...
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:19 AM
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No name calling guys, come on, i'll call him in the morning and ask him to check the page and for what I think (me not you), I think my kit is beter than entry level, but it is still a short arm soon to be changed I hope!
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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i just cant believe Jason hasnt been back here to post any repsonses.

I have IRO lift and they use some RC parts. i have RC 3" leafs and RC shocks. I also have RC adj trac bar that i bought from RC. It remains to be seen on how good these parts will be. I got them because of price. I just hope i dont regret it

Now i just ordered IRO adj ups and fixed lower c/a's. i also got a set of JKS discos,15x10 AR-23 and a set of 33" duratracs. it was an expensive day...lol

does anyone know if IRO c/a's are RC?

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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 05:02 AM
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Rough Country supplies good products at a good price. Every RC product that I have bought has bolted on with no problems and served me well while off roading.
Getting back to what I would like RC to get into, how about that roll bar that I mentioned before. You guys offer the Grab Handles for the bar, now how about the bar? Again, my cherokee would be very happy to be the fit "test vehicle".
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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i dont know why all i hear is s*** about how rough country sucks, in my own opinion they are the soul reason i have a lifted vehicle. if it wasn't so reasonably priced there would be a **** ton more xjs sitting close to the pavement. as far as my history with them ive had there 3inch kit for over a year with no problems. if you weigh out ur pros and cons i believe rough country is one of the best for wat they can do for a cheap budget guy like a lot of us are. though some cons are 1 there leaves are too short and leave a bad angle (bastard packs are easy and cheap to make if ur not satisfied with theres) 2 there bushings go bad quick (simple solution dont use them go with daystar problem fixed for pretty cheap) and 3 there shocks aren't the best but work for me im just gonna run em till i can save dfor the goods stuff

so overall ive said u can gather they make the most affordable entry level kit than can be upgraded as u go so don't s*** on them for being soo affordable (u can expect to get wat u get ) if uwant a long arm kit that is a one shot deal with no upgrading then u end up with more $ up forny which a ton of us don't rly have
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tvarney26
i dont know why all i hear is s*** about how rough country sucks, in my own opinion they are the soul reason i have a lifted vehicle. if it wasn't so reasonably priced there would be a **** ton more xjs sitting close to the pavement. as far as my history with them ive had there 3inch kit for over a year with no problems. if you weigh out ur pros and cons i believe rough country is one of the best for wat they can do for a cheap budget guy like a lot of us are. though some cons are 1 there leaves are too short and leave a bad angle (bastard packs are easy and cheap to make if ur not satisfied with theres) 2 there bushings go bad quick (simple solution dont use them go with daystar problem fixed for pretty cheap) and 3 there shocks aren't the best but work for me im just gonna run em till i can save dfor the goods stuff

so overall ive said u can gather they make the most affordable entry level kit than can be upgraded as u go so don't s*** on them for being soo affordable (u can expect to get wat u get ) if uwant a long arm kit that is a one shot deal with no upgrading then u end up with more $ up forny which a ton of us don't rly have
Thank you. You're right, they are an inexpensive, entry level kit that is easily upgradeable.
Hey, even us poor folk have to be able to go wheeling. Lol
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Hey everyone just wanted to stop in and let yall know what we have been up to and why not a lot of communication in this thread from me.

I have been in and out of the shop over the past few weeks fitting springs to 4 different xj's. I do not have a final conclusion as of right now but I can tell you that installing them is the hardest thing about the whole lift. I am thinking through the measurements I have camE up with that the need to be roughly 3/4" longer, However I am in no way an engineer so that determination will be up to them. I will post pics this afternoon of the latest one I am working on which is a 98 sport.

i will note that this one the shackle angle has been the best out of all that I have tested. That being said, all four rear upper shock bolts broke off so I drove the jeep for roughly 10 miles before I welded BPE on the top mount and installed shocks. As you will see in the pics the angle could use to be slightly more rearward but no where near as bad as pics I have seen. Maybe driving around with no shocks helped them settle quicker.

Again I will post pics and eventually the final decision made on what to do with the springs. For those that currently have springs with terrible angle as just a suggestion try remove the rear shocks and give it a spin or two around the block as a hopefully temp fix till we can get everything worked out.

Thanks to all who continue to support us
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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^^Nice. Hopefully the "higher-ups" will conclude that the leafs need to be longer!
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Please keep us updated on the conclusion of the leaf spring problem - I'd have no problem ordering a replacement set for mine, which are too short.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GRIMUS99XJ
Hey everyone just wanted to stop in and let yall know what we have been up to and why not a lot of communication in this thread from me.

I have been in and out of the shop over the past few weeks fitting springs to 4 different xj's. I do not have a final conclusion as of right now but I can tell you that installing them is the hardest thing about the whole lift. I am thinking through the measurements I have camE up with that the need to be roughly 3/4" longer, However I am in no way an engineer so that determination will be up to them. I will post pics this afternoon of the latest one I am working on which is a 98 sport.

i will note that this one the shackle angle has been the best out of all that I have tested. That being said, all four rear upper shock bolts broke off so I drove the jeep for roughly 10 miles before I welded BPE on the top mount and installed shocks. As you will see in the pics the angle could use to be slightly more rearward but no where near as bad as pics I have seen. Maybe driving around with no shocks helped them settle quicker.

Again I will post pics and eventually the final decision made on what to do with the springs. For those that currently have springs with terrible angle as just a suggestion try remove the rear shocks and give it a spin or two around the block as a hopefully temp fix till we can get everything worked out.

Thanks to all who continue to support us
Thanks for taking time and posting.

I have had my springs one with no shocked for about a week then put the shocks back in and there was no difference. My spring are way stiff
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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ok as stated I have been working on a 98 XJ sport and here is my final conclusion. The springs are a little short making install a real pain but after install I was able to get the shackles to pop out and as you will see in the pics the angle is not bad. We would like for it to be at a slight rearward angle and I believe that after a a little bit of driving and the springs goes through its settle time that the springs will in fact be ok. We will add a little bit in the future but it will not be as much as I was thinking it needed going into this.

I am not sure if I got lucky with the installs but I assure you the springs that I used were out of the same stack that we are shipping from. Please keep in mind also that the longer we make the springs the higher the spring rate will have to be to compensate and hold the height. I netted just over 5" with the springs so as it settles to 4.5" the shackle in theory will push the shackle to the sweet spot.

I would like to see pics of everyones shackle angle post install and not during or while vehicle is on the lift. Im sure there are some customers that did receive springs that were shorter the specs and we sill get yall taken care of. I talked to our spring MFG as well as a few others and all of them pretty much stated that there is a 1/4" tolerance during production which I was un aware of.

Again I will gladly help those who need help with the springs but please understand that I will need current pics of vehicle on the ground and not during install. Pics below show current Jeep I finished today as well as both driver and passenger side shackle angles.

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