cruiser54

Cool!! I like that.

kgm

Cool, it sounds like what I use my brain for! Drooling masses need to save their brain power for caramel macchiatos, I suppose.

sycoglitch

But yet I always see brand new BMWs and benz stranded on the sides of the road. Guess telling people when to maintain their privilege isn't enough

metalwonzero

that makes sense... what i posted... after i read it was... incoherent babble...to say the least, nothing technical about it.. i tried...

peep

Do the idiot lights come on only after the vehicle occupants enter or only when I make a post?
If the tech is in there, then there is no reason not to apply the vehicles abilities and let the tech perform it's function. To my thinking, the vehicle operator needs to consider driving habits and conditions and use the vehicle's built in tech feedback as data, and referencing the manufacturers operating manual and service recommendations and the operator needs to make the decisions on service intervals.
You did read the manual, didn't you? The only foolish question is the one not asked.
Of course as a last resort, read the manual.
What does the manual recommend as proper type of lubricant.
In the long run, the type of lubricant is not as critical as changing it regularly.
1st 500000km, change it every 5000 km max, next 500,000km, change it every 7000 km +/- 2000 km depending on driving conditions.

metalwonzero

Never put 100% faith in tech that was programmed by a human, it by default can and will suffer from human error.. the manual makes no sense to me.. its better to get zingers tossed at me online than to have a solid answer or opinion from someone that may or may not have technical knowledge i lack..

peep

Sorry, not to be misinterpreted, no zinger intended, you asked a valid question, that's smart.
I've never seen or read a KL manual. I do believe fully the woeful outcomes that can result in human involvement. The tech programming and the manual writing, both a result of human ingenuity. If the manual doesn't provide a lubricant recommendation and a maintenance schedule, then that is shameful.
If there isn't a qualified information source available, then apply good sense and err on the side of caution.
I'd recommend 7000km +/- 2000 km intervals, synthetic if you can afford it, conventional if your finances are tighter, a new filter every time. Just the fact of changing it is the most important detail. My 4.0L has over 700K km, so that works for me.

metalwonzero

i hope this new engine does not burn/use oil life fast on average.. hopefully its just part of breaking it in..

lighttoast

I have a feeling its a reflection of how you use it. From your posts it sounds like you climb trails regularly. I've got the v6 so I can't compare to the 4, but I'd be willing to bet its not that the engine goes through oil quick, its that you do.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

metalwonzero

nahh... after thinking into it, ima have to go with its just breaking in.. nothings broken or out of wack, so i will do the change. and see how far it goes on the 3rd refill.. (never had a new vehicle so ive never broken 1 in) <learning

SoCalCherokee

German cars are overrated.
Both those brands are NOT very reliable after say 80,000 miles.
Many people who own them trade them in or sell them before 100,000 miles because when the parts need replacing they are VERY expensive.

Example.

I have a friend who needed a battery for his BMW.
He was quoted $589.00 at the dealer!!

WHAT!! He said, "why so much for a battery"??

He was told the battery have to be "synched" to the cars computer.
German car companies just love to make cars complicated just to be different, doesn't mean it's better!

He told the service tech he was done with BMW.
Why? asked the service tech.
"Because of crap like THIS he said"!!

He went down the street and traded the BMW for a Toyota.


As far as oil changes go I change the oil in all my vehicles around 5,000 miles.
I'm 54 and have owned over 65 cars and never had an engine problem in any of them.

metalwonzero

yea the oil is pretty... dawgone dark... getting it changed today..

SoCalCherokee

Also guys there's BLACKSTONE LABS to test your oil if you're really concerned weather or not your engine is being protected or not.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/


It costs $25.00 to send a sample of your oil to be tested.
Good idea to see if the oil you're using is still protecting your engine for the amount of miles you run it before a change.

Bark

It is something the dealer may or may not decide to throw in. Mine gives a car wash too with the oil change. One next to me gives nothing. It has nothing to do with Chrysler and it is not a right or included.