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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 09:30 AM
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^ Steve's right on ^
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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Thanks fellas. Looks like it doesnt just pop off though? Ive taken off the collar and TRE and cleaned up the tie rod so now i just want to get the new boot on. Does it have to be forcefully removed?
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Joecam18
Thanks fellas. Looks like it doesnt just pop off though? Ive taken off the collar and TRE and cleaned up the tie rod so now i just want to get the new boot on. Does it have to be forcefully removed?
IIRC, there might be a metal retaining ring that holds the boot on.
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LAF1269
IIRC, there might be a metal retaining ring that holds the boot on.
gotcha. ill have to fiddle with it a little. Thanks!
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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Gonna bump an old thread, I've got a 98 Cherokee SE, want to make sure I'm gettin' the right stuff.

These 3 are in my cart on Amazon:

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Do I need to get some grease and grease up the inside of the sleeves?

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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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Yep, those are the right parts. You can slap some antisieze in the tie rod adjusting sleeve if you like, but only a very small amount.

Beware that, at least when I bought them, the TRE and tie rod were NOT painted.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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Thanks salad

I have one more question, I want to change out ALL of the tie rod ends I can. Bought my jeep with 172k and don't think the previous owner did a thing to it at any point in time.

Anyway, I've been staring at this pic and the only thing left to address is the drag link / tie rod ends for it. (i'll do track bar + replace pitman arm once I lift next year).

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I believe the correct part for the drag link / right side is Moog DS1238 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER). And that'll need a new tie rod end for the pitman arm correct? any idea what part # that is?

and lastly, i'll be looking to install all these parts on the side of the street in NYC. Without appropriate jacks/jack stands. Is that ok for these bolt on upgrades? Will take in for an alignment right after.

Thank you in advance.
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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TRE and adjusting sleeve is the same number for the drag link as the tie rod.

Yeah you can do it just lying on the street. It'll be a little tough without being able to turn the wheels a bit as required. Measuring tape alignment will get you to the shop (about 1/8" toe-in for most tires)
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:53 PM
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Also fyi, early style has 20mm drag link, later has 22mm. Don't know when they changed.
The above is 22mm stuff.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Laredo
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Also fyi, early style has 20mm drag link, later has 22mm. Don't know when they changed.
The above is 22mm stuff.
cool thanks. does it matter that its 2mm difference?

also are you missing an adjustment sleeve? or using an old one? draglink and tie rod both get one i reckon.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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If I were trying to refresh the steering before winter hits, but before I move to 1-ton steering next spring/summer, would this fit the bill? I priced out Moog at ~$175 for a similar kit through Rock Auto.

Clamed 5 year warranty which means I can beat it all winter, upgrade to new steering, and warranty any failed parts...

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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by uptownbill

cool thanks. does it matter that its 2mm difference?

also are you missing an adjustment sleeve? or using an old one? draglink and tie rod both get one i reckon.
I got the 22mm drag link cause I figured it was a tiny bit stronger and since it's from newer jeeps the TREs should be easier to find. It's also what was on the jeep, since I have a 97 d30 under it, so I reused the adjuster.
The ends/adjusters are different between 20 and 22mm obviously.


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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by uptownbill
cool thanks. does it matter that its 2mm difference?
Huge difference in diameter. Threads are typically 1mm tall or less

Originally Posted by uptownbill
also are you missing an adjustment sleeve? or using an old one? draglink and tie rod both get one i reckon.
Good catch, might be below the area captured in the screenshot.

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If I were trying to refresh the steering before winter hits, but before I move to 1-ton steering next spring/summer, would this fit the bill? I priced out Moog at ~$175 for a similar kit through Rock Auto.

Clamed 5 year warranty which means I can beat it all winter, upgrade to new steering, and warranty any failed parts...

93 98 Grand Cherokee Drag Links Tie Rods 5 2L Suspension Chassis Kit | eBay
Those are all the right part numbers
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Those are all the right part numbers

Thanks Salad. Anyone know if the DS1310 Drag Link for the V8 ZJ will work with the XJ?

From what I can tell, it is a touch longer overall than the XJ

Since I am trying to make an improvement, I may as well order the right parts (meaning order the drag link that is for the XJ)
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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Yes. It's very slightly longer, either 1/4" or 1/2", I can't remember. It's all covered in this thread.

Would be decent for a lifted XJ so you have more thread engagement.
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