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Old 11-16-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Yeah, a re-gear is really what is needed here. Not a backyard turbo hack job.

Trust me.

You still add nothing to the topic.
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Thats what i thought.
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You wanna do it right?

Use a medium hotside with a SmallER compressor wheel. Make sure the frankenstein is BB, not journal bearing.

Port the hell outta the hotside, and consider very large wastegate, external of course, otherwise it may creep like mad.

If you can, use a manual boost controller.

A 255lph fuel pump AT MIN, and a FMU would be easiest.

Sorry, took longer to write that than 'thought so'.

Still not a good idea for the OP.
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Haha. You are kidding right? Did you get that info on wikipedia? You still dont understand low boost.

Sounds like you copied generic "turbo kit specs" then pasted them here.

I allready did a breakdown of parts and over estimated prices for the entire low boost setup.

You are trying to post hot and cold side info like it matters right now, or like it matters for the potential setup for low boost.

Large wastegate? Are you kidding me?
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Your such a troll.

Whatever you gotta say to make yourself feel better, kiddo.
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you didnt say anything that i didnt allready cover in my post, besides use a FMU but that is just retarded advice.

this whole "Use a medium hotside with a SmallER compressor wheel. Make sure the frankenstein is BB, not journal bearing.

Port the hell outta the hotside, and consider very large wastegate, external of course, otherwise it may creep like mad." talk is just useless information for a low boost setup.

a large external gate is also a useless waste of money, and time in fabrication for a low boost setup.

at least you tried...
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how is using an FMU "retarded" advice
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how is using an FMU "retarded" advice
have you ever used an FMU?

they are the most unreliable pieces of crap when it comes to fuel management. even a 12:1 unit and using it up to 8lbs with retarded timing will be inconsistent.

FMU's are what "turbo kit" mfg's offer on low quality entry level turbo kits.

for the price of an FMU, you can get an actual adjustable FPR, and call it a day.

FMU's were popular in the early 90's when greddy, and hks were making turbo kits for honda's.
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Originally Posted by Grip
Im not gonna feed the troll.

and yet u keep on doin it lol
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and yet u keep on doin it lol
you are a troll?

my mistake, i could have sworn you were a tool.

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Originally Posted by Grip
have you ever used an FMU?

they are the most unreliable pieces of crap when it comes to fuel management. even a 12:1 unit and using it up to 8lbs with retarded timing will be inconsistent.

FMU's are what "turbo kit" mfg's offer on low quality entry level turbo kits.

for the price of an FMU, you can get an actual adjustable FPR, and call it a day.

FMU's were popular in the early 90's when greddy, and hks were making turbo kits for honda's.
Yes I have used an FMU no I dont like them but they do work for what is needed on a low boost engine. I personally rather tune an engine using a map sensor to add the fuel it needs under boost but FMU's are still used today in many supercharger kits
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you are a troll?

my mistake, i could have sworn you were a tool.





Name calling?

Have you made it outta grade school?

That will need to stop.

And your attitude needs to change as well. Friendly warnings.
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Originally Posted by Grip
you didnt say anything that i didnt allready cover in my post, besides use a FMU but that is just retarded advice.

this whole "Use a medium hotside with a SmallER compressor wheel. Make sure the frankenstein is BB, not journal bearing.

Port the hell outta the hotside, and consider very large wastegate, external of course, otherwise it may creep like mad." talk is just useless information for a low boost setup.

a large external gate is also a useless waste of money, and time in fabrication for a low boost setup.

at least you tried...

Wait, thought we were aiming for low boost?

Megasquirt is needed, but a simpler tuning setup using a FMU and factory MAP sensor setup is a bad choice?

Sounds like a contradiction.

For a low boost setup that you want to spool at super low RPM and not choke out in higher RPM, everything I suggested will be phenominal.

But you've done all this, so.....oh...wait...you haven't. Your still talking out of your tail pipe.

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Originally Posted by 1988cherokee
Yes I have used an FMU no I dont like them but they do work for what is needed on a low boost engine. I personally rather tune an engine using a map sensor to add the fuel it needs under boost but FMU's are still used today in many supercharger kits
FMU's are still offered as a type of "weekend install" package so people can install it and drive away the same weekend.

FMU's can work, but they have been known to back pressure fuel pumps, run super rich between transitions, and run rich in open loop.

you cant really get a good consistent tune with an FMU. but they can be used to get you by for a while.

for the money, why not just buy a FPR since this isnt a mfg turbo kit?


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