turbo charging a jeep.
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Well I'm that track so this is my plan.. to3 turbine Toyota 7mgte with stock waste gate 9psi max, type rs blowoff valve, malpassi fpr, srt4 fuel pump, custom piping, still studding if intercooler would be used. Lower temp thermostat, apexi safc for tunning, Ford.mustang injectors... I think that's about it .. the rest well coming soon.
We've discussed this.
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sooo easy hmmmm.... Grip lets see your XJ build pics then.... ?
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There's no point in turbo'ing an XJ unless you're going for a Jeepspeed or street Jeep type build. You'll only get boost at high RPMs and you almost never rev high while wheeling unless you're looking to flip or crash your Jeep.
If you're still dedicated to a forced induction XJ, Get a supercharger. Boost at all RPMs. You can't do any of this without building the rest of the engine up though. You'll blow it if you don't.
If you're still dedicated to a forced induction XJ, Get a supercharger. Boost at all RPMs. You can't do any of this without building the rest of the engine up though. You'll blow it if you don't.
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A turbo will usually hit full boost, then push power until you get towards the top at which point the design comes into play and will either keep pulling or sputter off. Generally, if you want fast spool, you will use a turbo that usually won't pull all the way to redline. This may or may not be a bad thing. The dyno graphs usually look like the typical but then jump through the roof once the turbo spools.
Superchargers are usually RPM dependent. Meaning the higher you rev, the higher you're boosting. If you don't rev, you don't boost. This depends on what kind and the design also. Centrifugal superchargers (vortechs) are this kind of supercharger and when you look at the power-curve it looks just like a stock motor with more power due to the design and nature of the blower.
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I know right. Guess if I had some money laying around it would be fun to do. In a 2wd 2 door. You could make it pretty light. Chop the top. Forged stroker, decent size turbo, about 20 lbs, standalone, meth, built AW4 with a converter, 8.8 rear, slicks. Be cool to make 500 to the tires and cruise it around with no doors.
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Only thing I was thinking is will the rest of the drive train handle the extra gaff? With that extra power there you know you're going to use it.
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From the pics I saw It mounts the turbo right under the exhaust and intake. I said I would mount it where the battery was. I was just trying to show how I would route the hotside out of the header. My bad on bad mouthing that manifold, didn't realize he was a vendor on here. Feel free to delete that part if you have to. Very impressive eclipse by the way. That's big mph! Was it fwd?
We went with a log design for several reasons...
1. Durability. When you develop a product to last, this is going to be your first concern. With the fact that even the best aftermarket 4.0L headers have a nasty habit of cracking, we wanted the manifold to be bullet proof and last as long as the rig.
2. Repeatability. We could make a tubular manifold that locates it in a different location, but the most available room is under the manifold.
3. Power output. If you have ever seen the flow numbers of the 4.0L head, you will realize you don't need the top end advantages that a tubular manifold and well built collector can offer. Sure if your looking for that last 10hp for your 4.0L drag car, a tubular should be in your sights. However, for a mild street setup a pressure log manifold is perfectly fine. The 4.0L is a low compression, low overlap, low RPM engine. Simply put, the advantages of a log manifold simply outweigh the negligable gains that would be realized by going to a tubular design.
We are one of the few who have actually turbocharged this engine so don't take our "opinion" lightly. Keep in mind, we make plenty of tubular manifolds and would have built one for our rig if we felt it was the best way to go.
Our 320whp 1900lb Time Attack CRX:
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Is there a turbo with an internal wastegate that will fit in the location when using your log manifold? Sure there will be a comprimise, but really looking for a manifold that can use an internal wastegate turbo. Thanks.
Is there a turbo with an internal wastegate that will fit in the location when using your log manifold? Sure there will be a comprimise, but really looking for a manifold that can use an internal wastegate turbo. Thanks.
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I would reccomend an internal gate Garrett T3/T4 with a cosworth style turbine housing from ATP turbo. They have a clockable WG bracket that would allow you to get the compressor housing and actuator where it needs to be. My only other concern is that internal gate turbos typically have a longer turbine outlet, which may reduce your ability to fit the downpipe. There isn't much room between the turbo and the firewall, but by going to an external gate and 3" V band outlet turbo, we we're able to fit a full 3" mandrel bend downpipe. If however, you are dead set on going with an internal gate, we can build you a manifold without the external flange with a discount as well.
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=TBN
Pics of our setup...
Hugs tight to the block but doesn't touch
Recirculated dumptube
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I'll help ya out though,
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthrea...031285&page=10
Page 10 fellas, if you dont want to read through the amazing thread!
Well done my friend. I feel that once taxes come back and I recover from the holidays, you and I will be in touch.
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I see you use the Brown Dog motor mounts, maybe they can make a mount that bolts to the engine and moves the mount forward 3" so there is more room for the intake tube so you don't need to use that accordion intake hose and move the turbo forward an inch or so to give more clearance for the downtube.
http://browndogindustries.com/s2572-...cketspair.aspx
http://browndogindustries.com/s2572-...cketspair.aspx
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