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Old 11-16-2011, 02:45 PM
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Boostwerks makes a turbo manifold for the XJ..it's a pretty penny but a must. IMO id get a vortech supercharger set up from RIPP so that you would have power in the low rpm's. It only works if you ditch the air compressor but you end up with a lot more room to work with. Plus your not putting that heat on the intake manifold like ppl are crying about. As far as intercoolers go, id be hesitant to stick one in front of my radiator. The vortech one that goes under the hood that someone posted a pic of would be perfect. Use it with hood louvers and you shouldn't have heat issues. Lastly no one has mentioned turbo timers. Good piece of equipment to have to insure longevity of the turbo.
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Originally Posted by mentalbreakdown00
Wow, this has gotten out of hand. Anyways, you could turbo an XJ, but it would be some work. Depending on factors you may need to upgrade the entire fuel system, and running a 3" or so exhaust under an XJ probably isn't going to be easily done. It would seem you would need to to a liquid charge air cooler for packaging purposes, and then run a seperate cooling system with a electric pump. I dunno, seems like a lot of work for not a lot of return on a stock engine.
Exactly. Not easy.

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What have you "spit" in this thread besides negative feedback about the whole idea of the topic the OP asked about?

For a "family friendly forum" you sure are the negative one with a G.O.D. complex due to the "moderator status"

Maybe try helping the OP atleast once instead of trying hard to bash every single thing i type.

Now i remember why i havent posted on here for the last year.
Aw, your running out of things to say. You drug user names into this.

How about you check the dozens of threads covering turbos for helpful info I've given? Oh, wait, your a yearly troll.

So...cheap turbo setup, huh?

What's a wideband o2 gauge run? Or even a Pyrometer? Anything to measure af ratios?

How about fuel upgrades? AFPR?

You must have totaled this up in your head. Cuz just the supporting goods aren't cheap. I haven't even factored in the raw piping, megasquirt cost, turbo cost, intercooler, BOV, etc

And what happens when its done incorrectly? Toss a rod out the side or the block? Melt valves?

You gonna start buying motors for everyone? No, its a BAD idea for me to suggest using caution and taking your time with a turbo setup. Just hop eight in, hack it together with PVC and duct tape. Great.

I'm glad trolls like you only come out once a year. Less garbage to deal with so the real forum members can enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
The exhaust manifold is on the opposite side as the ac compressor. That will be fun.

Megasquirt isn't plug and play, and is above the level of most DIYer guys doing it in their drive way. It would be a time consuming process. More fun, still.

Anything put in front for the radiator on a boosted XJ will destroy its cooling ability. Even more FUN!


Its really not easy to hack together an efficiently working Turbo setup. Key word being efficient.

It would be a blast, and its possible, but not easy...or cheap.


Im working on my own forced induction setup. In the early stages of course due to $$$. Doing it all myself, EXCEPT the tuning. I have a friend in AL that has a shop that will tune for me. Just because you're a diy'er doesn't mean you cant get some help with the inevitable. Unless you do it for a living you should have someone else do the tuning if you want a safe and reliable setup. But now that I do some more reading it appears that piggyback is the only way to go.
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Here may be some useful information to those who need it.

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/showthread.php?t=117426
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent Octopus
Im working on my own forced induction setup. In the early stages of course due to $$$. Doing it all myself, EXCEPT the tuning. I have a friend in AL that has a shop that will tune for me. Just because you're a diy'er doesn't mean you cant get some help with the inevitable. Unless you do it for a living you should have someone else do the tuning if you want a safe and reliable setup. But now that I do some more reading it appears that piggyback is the only way to go.
Your right, a DIYer cam indeed so it.

But like I said here, and have said many many MANY times...its NOT easy. Ans its NOT cheap.

Its just not.
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Exactly. Not easy.



Aw, your running out of things to say. You drug user names into this.

How about you check the dozens of threads covering turbos for helpful info I've given? Oh, wait, your a yearly troll.

So...cheap turbo setup, huh?

What's a wideband o2 gauge run? Or even a Pyrometer? Anything to measure af ratios?

How about fuel upgrades? AFPR?

You must have totaled this up in your head. Cuz just the supporting goods aren't cheap. I haven't even factored in the raw piping, megasquirt cost, turbo cost, intercooler, BOV, etc

And what happens when its done incorrectly? Toss a rod out the side or the block? Melt valves?

You gonna start buying motors for everyone? No, its a BAD idea for me to suggest using caution and taking your time with a turbo setup. Just hop eight in, hack it together with PVC and duct tape. Great.

I'm glad trolls like you only come out once a year. Less garbage to deal with so the real forum members can enjoy.
Wasnt the OP asking for a low boost setup? You are piecing it together like its going to be a time attack jeep.

What is your idea of expensive? $2,000? $3,000?

Wideband $180
Fuel pump $100
Injectors $200- $450
Big 16G, or hybrid T3/T4 both under $400
Piggy back AFC $120
Intercooler core $75
Intercooler piping kit $100
Intercooler couplers $40
Low cp headgasket $120
Bov $100

All of that is $1,685 using expensive brand new injectors.

Add another $200 for ****s and giggles of unforseen crap like oil feed and return, air filter etc etc.

Thats $1,885

Now say $500 to build a downpipe and exhaust manifold (incase you really suck at fabrication and waste a ****load of material)

Thats $2,385 for a turbo kit using all name brand, quality parts.

Add another $200 just for the hell of it. (mbc, heat wrap, turbo blanket etc etc)

$2,585 total for everything you need.

If you pay someone, it will cost alot more because labor is rape.

If you think $2,600 for a quality complete turbo setup that will be reliable is "expensive" you have no idea what it would cost if you wanted to make actual power.

People spend more than $2600 on their lift kits, some spend close to that on wheels and tires.

Like i have said, as well as another member in this thread. Search google for the keywords i gave. There are forums out there for just DIY turbo setups.

If you wanted it cheaper than $2,600 that can be easily done too.

Just because it isnt done alot, doesnt mean it cant be done for cheap, and be reliable.
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent Octopus
Im working on my own forced induction setup. In the early stages of course due to $$$. Doing it all myself, EXCEPT the tuning. I have a friend in AL that has a shop that will tune for me. Just because you're a diy'er doesn't mean you cant get some help with the inevitable. Unless you do it for a living you should have someone else do the tuning if you want a safe and reliable setup. But now that I do some more reading it appears that piggyback is the only way to go.
A piggyback AFC is the way to go if you are on a budget. A megasquirt isnt that expensive either, its just alot more work.
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And how much do gears run?

Less than a grand with setup.

Someone just got new QUALITY gears for less than $450 here. It wont be $2200 more for setup.
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And you also don't runs the risk of pitching a rod out the side or your block.

An axle is much cheaper and easier than a new motor.
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Originally Posted by Grip
A piggyback AFC is the way to go if you are on a budget. A megasquirt isnt that expensive either, its just alot more work.
How does Megasquirt work? Is it by flashing the ecu? because if so that's what I meant by piggyback is the only way to go because apparently you cant override Mopar ecu's...thats what I read from JP Magazine so idk how true it is.
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent Octopus
How does Megasquirt work? Is it by flashing the ecu? because if so that's what I meant by piggyback is the only way to go because apparently you cant override Mopar ecu's...thats what I read from JP Magazine so idk how true it is.
Piggyback is a seperate air/ fuel controller that taps into the stock ecu. Google "apexi afc)

A megasquirt is a standalone ecu that replaces the stock ecu and wiring completely. Megasquirts arent expensive, they are just alot more work than a piggyback for a budget build.

Megasquirts are some of the lower budget standalone computers out there.
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And how much do gears run?

Less than a grand with setup.

Someone just got new QUALITY gears for less than $450 here. It wont be $2200 more for setup.
You still dont get the point of the thread? You just want to argue huh?

I thought the OP was asking about turboing his xj for low boost. Not gear set reccomendations?
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
And you also don't runs the risk of pitching a rod out the side or your block.

An axle is much cheaper and easier than a new motor.
And you still dont understand what low boost is.
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Originally Posted by nopi
i am planning on going turbo on my xj.. i am looking for advice already bought a turbine, its from a turbo supra (7mgt). not looking for big boost just a little help...please some ideas on what to do but using stock internals remember low boost just for ocasional wheeling....thx..
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i recently rebuilt the engine and what do you mean by regear???
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so much wrong information in this thread.

OP, do some research on other forums...google is your friend. (junkyard turbo, DIY turbo, megasquirt, apexi AFC)those are some keywords you should look into

you are asking for advice from people who have no actual experience with this subject, and the 1% who have the know how probably aren't reading this thread.

Uh huh. Interesting.
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Yeah, a re-gear is really what is needed here. Not a backyard turbo hack job.

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