Does not bolt on, you have to weld a 1" wide hunk of aluminum to the back of the head mill it all flat and drill holes in it for head bolts, the timing belt isn't hard to deal with, but then it's completely custom intake and exhaust manifolds, and piping....... just saying

 

It's not really about " don't do that, do this", its his jeep, right? He wants turbo tips, not V8 swap, or re-gear suggestions.

 

God, I read this whole thread, and I hate turbos. It's a train wreck, and Grip... just give up. Gee oh Dee has clearly out smarted you in every aspect of this type of project. Go sit down.

And btw, referring to one of your posts... how the hell do you build a "cheap" cherokee? There's a reason for the acronym Just Empty Every Pocket.

 

Understandable, but it's kinda like this:

If you were in a grocery store and saw someone paying $500 for a gallon of milk, when they could easily get the SAME flavor, quality, and amount of milk, if not more/better, for $3, wouldn't you say something?

 

X2

 

A re-gear gives you 100hp? That's a weak analogy.

 

Personally I thought about putting a E3 16g on the Jeep before. The way the outlet points up, the spooling characteristics, and being an MHI turbo had me going. But like G.O.D. said, it's going to creep like nuts unless swapped over to an external WG system and either running dual 38's or one 44. I'd suggest going with either a 50 trim or a BW S200 series turbo. Way more efficient in low boost.

 

No but it makes you feel like you did.

and in that aspect its torque not horsepower.

 

I agree with you, and I can't help myself sometimes telling people "do this instead", but its still his jeep and there's been a lot said already about what NOT to do... I dunno. I think its cool if he wants to do it. If you got the three w's ( welding, wiring, wrenching) maybe you could pull it off. Giv'er, eh?

 

3Ws plus the 3$$$. There has been a lot of dont do this or that but its all speculation. If someone wants to do it, then by all means do it! Dont let all of this stop you. I would love to but I dont have the means or the finances

 

Holy crap... do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Seriously people.... putting a turbo on anything is stupid easy. Setting up a proper fuel management system and getting it tuned properly is the hard portion.

Putting on twin turbos???? There's a reason why people swap tt's off and put a single turbo on, putting a 16g on because the outlet faces properly??? Most turbos, esp garrets can be clocked, using a 50 trim cause its more effient in low boost??? Only a compressor map for that turbo matched to the motor its going to go onto can tell you that... it changes for every motor.

There are proper (stupid easy) steps to properly setup a turbo system and I haven't heard them mentioned here much. Anyone setting up a turbo system should be spending a lot more time worrying about proper fuel management than if they can put a turbo on. If you're getting hung up on putting a turbo on you should really rethink doing it, when you get to fuel management you're going to run into a lot more snags that are much harder to find a solution to.

I don't mean to be a dick but id hate to see a newbie slap a turbo on and blow their stuff up.... nothing like spending money and time to make things worse.

 

I know I'm just saying that $500 gallon of milk gives you 100hp/tq and that $3 gallon milk gives you good crawl ratio but kills mpg on highway.

 

I guess by your standard you know nothing of what you speak of either.

He was talking about dual external wastegates. Not a twin Turbo setup.

Or do you not know what external or internal wastegates are?

And, I am not sire if youvelooked under the hood of an XJ, either, but there isn't exactly an abundance of room under there.

So, why worry about fuel management before even getting a turbo on?

 

Just to clarify, Im the DA that mentioned twinturbos, but that was in regards to the stock set up on a 2JZ-GTE in a Supra. I was just saying how awesome it would be to have a low/quick spooling setup such as that. Not litterally attempt to TT an XJ...

:facepalm: for egotistical flamers..

 

In regards to the mustang, yes it was a 4 banger turbo...it's a 2.3L sohc with an intercooled turbo. My dad has that motor in his CJ5 and it's ok offroad, what's nice is how light the motor is compared to the 4.0....and it makes about the same hp. oh and it's really good for turning differ into bits and prices when you dump the clutch in 3rd gear @6000 rpm and 20lbs of boost lol.