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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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I didnt say they do not like load.

I said making the tires harder to spin won't make the turbo more effecient or the vehicle faster.

Just think about that.

If that were the case a forced induction motor would dyno with less crank HP than wheel HP.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
I was building a turbo car long before the Jeep.
What your trying to say is by making the wheels harder to spin it makes the turbo better and the vehilce more powerful/faster.
think about what buddy ever hear of brake boosting?????? its based of that^^^^ and the fact that it builds boost better due to the load hahhahahah im done honestly like i said they like load and it does make it more powerful/faster..... and to the op sorry for this just didnt want u misread go to the turbo forums read as muh as you can look up theory formulas etc...

you pressing brakes = making wheels harder to spin = building more boost = more power/torque

or

putting bigger wheels + steeper gear (stock gear or lower) = more power/torque/boost

and about the dynos not neseccarily because on the dyno theirs still load and once the turbo start to work youl still see a peak in #s you ever see supras dyno #s??? ive seen a 300whp supra run the same time as a 800whp supra with the same suspension setup....... just because your rowing through gears faster doesnt mean ur actually going faster...... theirs so much and ill end it here go read enjoy

im just sharing real facts information not trying to stir or upset anyone...

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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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If you think everything on forums is true you need to back away from the keyboard.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by crfrider
think about what buddy ever hear of brake boosting?????? its based of that^^^^ and the fact that it builds boost better due to the load hahhahahah im done honestly like i said they like load and it does make it more powerful/faster..... and to the op sorry for this just didnt want u misread go to the turbo forums read as muh as you can look up theory formulas etc...

you pressing brakes = making wheels harder to spin = building more boost = more power/torque

or

putting bigger wheels + steeper gear (stock gear or lower) = more power/torque/boost

and about the dynos not neseccarily because on the dyno theirs still load and once the turbo start to work youl still see a peak in #s you ever see supras dyno #s??? ive seen a 300whp supra run the same time as a 800whp supra with the same suspension setup....... just because your rowing through gears faster doesnt mean ur actually going faster...... theirs so much and ill end it here go read enjoy

im just sharing real facts information not trying to stir or upset anyone...

Aaaand this is how misinformation gets started.

You are sorely misunderstanding. Some day hopefully you'll figure it out.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
If you think everything on forums is true you need to back away from the keyboard.

if your reffering to me im not talkign about forums them selves links to articles facts dyno 3s and the turbo theory written by eaton and many other companys...... the links are all their sorry if i didnt write that out fully like i said ill agree to disagree but facts
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Whats the definition of theory?

Anyone?
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Whats the definition of theory?

Anyone?

Bahaha theory of how a turbo works isnt much of a theory anymore its more of what its called and explains how it works what theory or anythign are you going off?? w.e like i said not worth it bye this is the internet i shared........ guess we will find out whos right one day huh
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Maybe this will help you understand...

Motors are just air movement machines. The quicker and more effeciently you can move the air the more power you will make.

Making it harder isnt going to help your cause.


I wonder why folks try to lighten their car, then, to go faster. I mean, weight equals load, more weight, more load...

But they don't weigh their vehicles down. The goal is to be lighter...?
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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At least for me crawling I never use more than 1/10th throttle. A lawn mower engine would work fine. It's the freeway where the turbo would help. Mudding is a different story.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by crfrider

think about what buddy ever hear of brake boosting?????? its based of that^^^^ and the fact that it builds boost better due to the load hahhahahah im done honestly like i said they like load and it does make it more powerful/faster..... and to the op sorry for this just didnt want u misread go to the turbo forums read as muh as you can look up theory formulas etc...

you pressing brakes = making wheels harder to spin = building more boost = more power/torque

or

putting bigger wheels + steeper gear (stock gear or lower) = more power/torque/boost

and about the dynos not neseccarily because on the dyno theirs still load and once the turbo start to work youl still see a peak in #s you ever see supras dyno #s??? ive seen a 300whp supra run the same time as a 800whp supra with the same suspension setup....... just because your rowing through gears faster doesnt mean ur actually going faster...... theirs so much and ill end it here go read enjoy

im just sharing real facts information not trying to stir or upset anyone...
Dude, it may make the turbo spool more quickly, but it is not going to make it quicker. Faster, maybe if you are redlining and still have useable power, but not quicker. Also higher ratio gears will ALWAYS (with everything else identical) put down less net torque at the axles than low ratio (higher numerically.) gears. Also, if everything else stays constant, a properly tuned forced induction motor CAN get better mileage, but this depends solely on the application of your right foot. Please, please, please argue with me, but before you do, find some verified scientific evidence, because I WILL make you look and feel rather inept and ignorant.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Unprofessional.

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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Typically as long as you stay otuta boost you'll see better mileage.


And I thought FrankZs 5.3 swap was emissions legal. I could be wrong, tho.
Motor swaps are legal as long as the engine is from a model year equal to or newer of the vehicle being swapped into and all emissions equipment that was standard on the new engine must be there. At least thats how it is in PA. My friend has a 4.3 from a '91 jimmy in a '88 YJ and it all works out great, if you didnt know any better you would think it was stock
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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That explains why FrankZ is emission legal. He swapped in everything.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jeep19xj91
Motor swaps are legal as long as the engine is from a model year equal to or newer of the vehicle being swapped into and all emissions equipment that was standard on the new engine must be there. At least thats how it is in PA. My friend has a 4.3 from a '91 jimmy in a '88 YJ and it all works out great, if you didnt know any better you would think it was stock
Depends on your state.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
Depends on your state.
thats a federal requirement, states can add on to the law if they want.
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