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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dogger15
You could have used a front ds out of a grand Cherokee with the 249 t case those are about 34" collapsed. XJ 87/88 2.5 Automatic 27.950 53003912 XJ 89/93 2.5 Automatic 27.970 53005540 XJ 89/01 2.5 Manual 25.310 53005541 XJ 89/01 4.0 Automatic 30.660 53005542 XJ 89/01 4.0 Manual 29.250 53005543 XJ 89/00 4.0 Manual 27.080 Export 53005544 XJ 89/00 4.0 Automatic 28.620 Export 53005545 XJ 87/88 4.0 Automatic Export 53005260 * XJ 95/01 Diesel 27.640 Export 52098208 ZJ 1993 4.0 Automatic 30.530 52098341 ZJ 93/95 5.2 Automatic 32.870 w/o CV 53008427 ZJ 94/95 5.2 A500 30.625 w/o CV 52087805 ZJ 94/95 4.0 A500 w/o CV 52098790 ZJ 93/96 4.0 Manual 52098344 ZJ 93/96 4.0, 5.2 31.875 w/ 231, 242 52087805 ZJ 93/95 4.0 Manual 30.000 w/231 52088090 ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427 ZJ 96/98 5.2, 5.9 31.250 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098379 ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 32.875 w/ 249 & Model 30 52098501 ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707 ZJ 96/97 4.0 Automatic 31.250 52098850 ZJ 1996 5.2 Automatic 30.750 w/ 249 & Model 30 52099246 ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260
Yeah thanks I decided to just go with a new one for piece of mind..

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by heydockyle
Can anyone confirm that with the splines showing like in the picture that it's at the end of its extension?
I think it's time you did a little hard work and take it apart and see lol
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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I'm going to have to figure this all out as well... Only with 6.5" I'm almost certainly going to have to get one from a ZJ. Will most likely be a PITA to find since most came with that CV style, not the double cardon.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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It's hit or miss. You have to measure and verify before you buy.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonoid369
I think it's time you did a little hard work and take it apart and see lol
Well I had it off and beating it with a hammer i was unable to separate it any further. Just wanted someone else's input. Thanks though.

Grabbed a gc Driveshaft today. Measured three different ones and compared them all to a stock Cherokee one. All three were shorter then the regular Cherokee front by a half inch or so fully compressed. Fully extended they were about a inch and a half longer. Kind of contradicts what that chart says. Anyhow the gc shaft works good giving me almost two inches of shaft with the tires off the ground before it would come apart.

And yes I know the pinion angle is off, haven't changed it yet.

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Now that's a lot of splines showing, I'd be worried there
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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There is a boot that goes over that. And at stock height without the boot on the grand Cherokee there is a tiny amount of splines showing. I feel safer here knowing I'm not bottoming out and potentially damaging the tc or rear end. If the Driveshaft breaks so be it. Only a trail rig.

I plan on getting a shaft made when the funding is right, but at this time it's not in the budget.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 05:33 AM
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That shafts to short plain and simple never should there splines showing . Get a longer one from u pull yard.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by heydockyle
Well I had it off and beating it with a hammer i was unable to separate it any further. Just wanted someone else's input. Thanks though.

Grabbed a gc Driveshaft today. Measured three different ones and compared them all to a stock Cherokee one. All three were shorter then the regular Cherokee front by a half inch or so fully compressed. Fully extended they were about a inch and a half longer. Kind of contradicts what that chart says. Anyhow the gc shaft works good giving me almost two inches of shaft with the tires off the ground before it would come apart.

And yes I know the pinion angle is off, haven't changed it yet.

I have 2 gc front shafts both are 34" collapsed . Even lifted I'd have to get them cut to work as spares for my rig .
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 05:45 AM
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Im on 11 inch of lift using gc shafts something aint right shaft lengths are collapsed in the post above, how long is it from center to center of u joint ?
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by heydockyle
Got my Sye on. Picked my front Driveshaft up from junkyard. Put it on the rear and it seems to be fully extended at ride height. Rough country 3 inch leafs with extended shackles so I'm guessing 4-4.5in lift. Driveshaft fully extended eye to eye measures around 35 1/4.
231 transfer. 4.0 auto c8.25.

Am I missing something or is this just an odd happening.

If this is 35 .25 bolted on you need this shaft ....
ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.500 w/ 249 52099260
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
That shafts to short plain and simple never should there splines showing . Get a longer one from u pull yard.

The way this shaft is there are splines showing until it is completely bottomed out. As soon as it extends at all there are splines showing. It doesn't completely collapse like the regular Cherokee one does.


Originally Posted by freegdr
Im on 11 inch of lift using gc shafts something aint right shaft lengths are collapsed in the post above, how long is it from center to center of u joint ?

I measured the farthest parts of the shaft, outer ear to outer ear and the stock shaft was around 31, this was around 30.5. Fully extended this one is about 36.5




ZJ 96/98 4.0 33.000 w/ 242 52098707

This ^ is two of the shafts that I measured, including the one that is on my Jeep now, but it is not that long. And I pulled the shafts out of them myself.

The other shaft was this:
ZJ 93/96 5.2 33.000 w/ 231 53008427


All were the same. Only thing I can't confirm is the part numbers because they are all worn off.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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damn I'm about to do 5"of lift on my 01...I hope a GC shaft works and that my jeep isn't out of commission for days!
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