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Nov 24, 2018 | 05:41 PM

#16

RockinRonnie

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From: Evart,Mich.

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee (XJ)

Engine: 4.0

I don't have any problems at all with what I have just looking to upgrade. I am going to go the 1ton kit for what I have getting off here and getting it ordered. as I upgrade my set up can always change it

Nov 24, 2018 | 05:50 PM

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studmuffin

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From: Tucson, AZ

Year: 1991

Model: Cherokee

Engine: 4.0

Although a steering stabilizer is not a fix for death wobble Im a firm believer that you should still use one. They help alot when offroading with the overall ride quality. Many people think that because you don't need one that you shouldn't run one but I think you should. I know you can buy a bracket for one ton steering that allows you to run one.

Nov 24, 2018 | 06:06 PM

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NewKindOfClown

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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH

Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler

Engine: 4.0 I6

I don't think anybody here will tell you they're inherently bad. They certainly don't hurt anything if they're installed correctly, and they can make your driving experience more comfortable. But they certainly aren't a need, and we've been battling that myth here for a long time. Some of us get a little antsy when we see those claims lol

Nov 24, 2018 | 06:25 PM

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Rogue4x4

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From: Blunt, South Dakota

Year: 97

Model: Cherokee (XJ)

Engine: 4.6 stroker

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

Agreed, but it's kinda like hitting your wife whilst wearing a rubber. You don't necessarily need one, but you may not want another mouth to feed, in the ghetto

Nov 24, 2018 | 07:16 PM

#20

4.3L XJ

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From: Chico, CA

Year: 1986

Model: Cherokee

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Originally Posted by cruiser54

That's been my experience........

Mine too. I don't run one

Nov 24, 2018 | 08:38 PM

#21

RockinRonnie

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From: Evart,Mich.

Year: 2001

Model: Cherokee (XJ)

Engine: 4.0

One more Question about the steering upgrade Decided on the 1 ton type upgrade and am down to only two choices and want everybody's thought on the two.

1) the JC off road 1 ton kit with steel tube and unnamed tie rods or
2) the SFR premium 1 ton kit aluminum tube and moog tie rods
I think because of moog joints #2 is the kit to get anybody use it and have any thoughts or know of a steel kit with moog tie rods ? because I know the problem with aluminum and steel over time! but then again steel to steel is not great over time!

Nov 24, 2018 | 10:43 PM

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NewKindOfClown

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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH

Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler

Engine: 4.0 I6

I don't know if you're looking at the same JCR kit that I have on my Wrangler, but I hate that it's all round tube. There are no flat sections anywhere on the links to grip, so I've ruined my powdercoat with an 18" monkey wrench doing alignment adjustments. It also makes it nearly impossible to get worn TREs out of the links once they've started corroding.

I'd suggest finding a kit that has a milled section for easier adjustments. Or, if you have the tools, I suggest doing that yourself before painting/coating the links.

Nov 25, 2018 | 10:18 AM

#23

Steve5280

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From: Fort Collins

Year: 1998

Model: Cherokee (XJ)

Engine: 4.0L coming out, 4.7L Stroker going in soon.

Ridgerunner over at FrontRange did a great job with his. I'm almost done with the same setup.

http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/...kle-swap-build

Dec 9, 2018 | 09:09 PM

#24

Rikrdolevy

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Model: Cherokee (XJ)

Engine: 4.0L

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

Entirely false. A steering stabilizer provides a nice on-road experience by damping the response to road imperfections. If you have Death Wobble, it has nothing to do with your stabilizer. The only thing the stabilizer does is mask the problem until one of two things happens: The stabilizer wears out prematurely, or the actual problem proceeds to get worse until the stabilizer can't hide it anymore.

I had DW on my Cherokee with a stabilizer installed. It went away when I fixed the problem with my track bar bolt. My Wrangler didn't get DW with factory steering and a stabilizer. It still doesn't get DW with my crossover steering setup and no stabilizer. But it did get DW when my wheels were out of balance.

There are a lot of things that can cause death wobble, but a steering stabilizer is not and never will be the deciding factor there.

So does it make a difference if you have an stabilizer installed? I mean if i have the crossover steering can I just not istall the stabilizer or would it be better for onroad driving to have the stabilizer ?

Dec 9, 2018 | 09:17 PM

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NewKindOfClown

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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH

Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler

Engine: 4.0 I6

If you did a direct comparison, you may find the stabilizer to be more comfortable. There are a lot of variables there, including the driver's personal tolerance for feedback.

I haven't had one in years, and I don't miss it. That's just me