Parts for Regear
I've searched around and can't seem to find a definitive answer. I want to reheat my hi pinion dana30 and Chrysler 8.25 to 4.56 so my 94 xj has some decent highway performance and maybe even towing too. What parts do I need? I know on some diffs you needed to get a new carrier to fit those big gears but I don't know if you need it for either of these. What all do I need?
Thanks.
94 xj, 4.0, ax15.
Thanks.
94 xj, 4.0, ax15.
CF Veteran

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,636
Likes: 469
From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Ring and pinion with full rebuild kits for both axles, you will need a new carrier for the front for a 3.73 and up gear set. Also it's good to have 2 extra carrier bearings for the front and an extra inner pinion bearing for both axles so you can make set up bearings out of them. When I did mine I ordered 2 rebuild kits for the front since it was the same price as buying 2 carrier and 1 pinion bearing seperatley. Also you will need to buy or make a tool for the side adjusters on the Chrysler 8.25 axle, and since your 94 8.25 is a 27 spline it would be a good time to upgrade to a 29 spline carrier and axles shafts.
Member
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 223
Likes: 47
From: Castle Rock, CO
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche (MJ)
Engine: 5.3
Don't forget about the tools.
A good dial indicator on a magnetic base so you can measure backlash, like this one:
A good dial indicating torque wrench, measuring in inch pounds to test bearing preload like this one:
A caliper to measure the shims, like this one:
A good heavy duty torque wrench rated up to 250 lb-ft or so for torquing the pinion nut properly, like this one:
And, of course, a shop press to put the bearings on, like this:
Though you can probably use the cheaper 12 ton press if you wanted to save some money:
A good dial indicator on a magnetic base so you can measure backlash, like this one:
A good dial indicating torque wrench, measuring in inch pounds to test bearing preload like this one:
A caliper to measure the shims, like this one:
A good heavy duty torque wrench rated up to 250 lb-ft or so for torquing the pinion nut properly, like this one:
And, of course, a shop press to put the bearings on, like this:
Though you can probably use the cheaper 12 ton press if you wanted to save some money:
Last edited by derf; Oct 16, 2019 at 01:35 PM.
Ring and pinion with full rebuild kits for both axles, you will need a new carrier for the front for a 3.73 and up gear set. Also it's good to have 2 extra carrier bearings for the front and an extra inner pinion bearing for both axles so you can make set up bearings out of them. When I did mine I ordered 2 rebuild kits for the front since it was the same price as buying 2 carrier and 1 pinion bearing seperatley. Also you will need to buy or make a tool for the side adjusters on the Chrysler 8.25 axle, and since your 94 8.25 is a 27 spline it would be a good time to upgrade to a 29 spline carrier and axles shafts.
What's the benefit of going to 29 spline? I don't mind spending the money if I have to but is it necessary? This will be an overland rig primarily and will almost never crawl over rocks if it makes a difference.
Don't forget about the tools.
A good dial indicator on a magnetic base so you can measure backlash, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/All-Industria...1250347&sr=1-1
A good dial indicating torque wrench, measuring in inch pounds to test bearing preload like this one: https://www.amazon.com/CDI-Torque-75.../dp/B005LLEMFW
A caliper to measure the shims, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-01407A-...8T6W5K55PNB1X0
A good heavy duty torque wrench rated up to 250 lb-ft or so for torquing the pinion nut properly, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-24340-...s%2C524&sr=1-6
And, of course, a shop press to put the bearings on, like this: https://www.amazon.com/20-Ton-Hydrau.../dp/B0043G9CY2
Though you can probably use the cheaper 12 ton press if you wanted to save some money: https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Hydraul...D0464KV04C1E9K
A good dial indicator on a magnetic base so you can measure backlash, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/All-Industria...1250347&sr=1-1
A good dial indicating torque wrench, measuring in inch pounds to test bearing preload like this one: https://www.amazon.com/CDI-Torque-75.../dp/B005LLEMFW
A caliper to measure the shims, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-01407A-...8T6W5K55PNB1X0
A good heavy duty torque wrench rated up to 250 lb-ft or so for torquing the pinion nut properly, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-24340-...s%2C524&sr=1-6
And, of course, a shop press to put the bearings on, like this: https://www.amazon.com/20-Ton-Hydrau.../dp/B0043G9CY2
Though you can probably use the cheaper 12 ton press if you wanted to save some money: https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Hydraul...D0464KV04C1E9K
Also, I see Dana 30 kits that are for standard or reverse rotation. How do I know which my jeep has? Or are front diffs usually reverse rotation? Does it depend on my transfer case?
As far as upgrading to 29 spline? What are the benefits of that? I won't be beating the rig to death at any time so I doubt I'll break the 8.25 if it's a strength thing. Thanks
Trending Topics
Member
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 223
Likes: 47
From: Castle Rock, CO
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche (MJ)
Engine: 5.3
Thanks!
What's the benefit of going to 29 spline? I don't mind spending the money if I have to but is it necessary? This will be an overland rig primarily and will almost never crawl over rocks if it makes a difference.
Whoa.... Yeah I definitely don't have any of those. Haha thanks
What's the benefit of going to 29 spline? I don't mind spending the money if I have to but is it necessary? This will be an overland rig primarily and will almost never crawl over rocks if it makes a difference.
Whoa.... Yeah I definitely don't have any of those. Haha thanks
Installing gears isnt rocket surgery but it's precision work that takes some practice to get right. If you don't go through the process of getting the shims just right your gears will eat themselves quickly.
Gents, I was doing some googling and I noticed that early jeep liberty models also had Dana 30 fronts (although I couldn't find if they were high or low pinion) and Chrysler 8.25 29 spline rear ends.
Since I'm looking at gears anyway I figured, the 2.4l models had 4.10s in it, and I can rip the 29 spline carrier and gears out of a kj and upgrade my whole back end. AND I'll get rear disks out of the deal too. Thoughts? Cautions?
If this works it would not only save me money because the gears would be cheaper, but I'd also then have a 29 spline rear end so I could actually get the damn trutrac that I want lol.
Since I'm looking at gears anyway I figured, the 2.4l models had 4.10s in it, and I can rip the 29 spline carrier and gears out of a kj and upgrade my whole back end. AND I'll get rear disks out of the deal too. Thoughts? Cautions?
If this works it would not only save me money because the gears would be cheaper, but I'd also then have a 29 spline rear end so I could actually get the damn trutrac that I want lol.
CF Veteran

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,636
Likes: 469
From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
The Liberty's have an ifs front axle, and the rear axle has coil springs so to make it work you have to cut all of the old brackets off, and weld new spring perches and shock mounts on.
Member
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 223
Likes: 47
From: Castle Rock, CO
Year: 1987
Model: Comanche (MJ)
Engine: 5.3
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Jeep_Liberty/Dana_30a
The front D30 gears are not compatible because of the longer pinion shaft.
And really, you don't want to bother with trying to reuse gears anyway. It's virtually impossible to get them lined up exactly the way they were in the other axle and misalignment of the gears will cause premature wear.
Besides, new gears aren't all that expensive in the context of getting gears installed.
The front D30 gears are not compatible because of the longer pinion shaft.
And really, you don't want to bother with trying to reuse gears anyway. It's virtually impossible to get them lined up exactly the way they were in the other axle and misalignment of the gears will cause premature wear.
Besides, new gears aren't all that expensive in the context of getting gears installed.
And the cutting/welding on the rear makes sense.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Jeep_Liberty/Dana_30a
The front D30 gears are not compatible because of the longer pinion shaft.
And really, you don't want to bother with trying to reuse gears anyway. It's virtually impossible to get them lined up exactly the way they were in the other axle and misalignment of the gears will cause premature wear.
Besides, new gears aren't all that expensive in the context of getting gears installed.
The front D30 gears are not compatible because of the longer pinion shaft.
And really, you don't want to bother with trying to reuse gears anyway. It's virtually impossible to get them lined up exactly the way they were in the other axle and misalignment of the gears will cause premature wear.
Besides, new gears aren't all that expensive in the context of getting gears installed.
Thanks y'all
Senior Member





Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 789
Likes: 233
From: Current XJ is
Year: 95
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Stronger axle. More importantly is 29 spline opens up options for Limited Slip or locking differentials that 27 spline does not.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
flanman22
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
3
Apr 12, 2014 02:01 PM
JackW
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
4
Aug 23, 2010 03:55 PM
xjhoup
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
3
Mar 24, 2010 09:44 PM
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)



