Metal adhereing spray paint
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So I'm gonna paint my stock cherokee rims black to match my black and grey theme I got going on an was wondering what a good spray for metal would be? I have some left over krylon fusion from my trim and its says it adheres to metal well but was just curious I there was something btetter?
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So I'm gonna paint my stock cherokee rims black to match my black and grey theme I got going on an was wondering what a good spray for metal would be? I have some left over krylon fusion from my trim and its says it adheres to metal well but was just curious I there was something btetter?
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Originally Posted by Trumpster
Just make sure you prep the surface properly. You'll need to sand it with a fine grit sandpaper in order for the paint to stick properly.
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100% proper way would be sand down to bare metal, smooth the surface, primer, sand, rinse/repeat a few times, paint, wet sand, paint, wet sand clear coat, wet sand. I don't work at a body shop though so there might be better instructions/advice out there lol.
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Originally Posted by 98XJ40K
I used a wire wheel on my drill along with some sandpaper (180 then 220) to scuff up the surface. Followed up with a self etching primer, then flat black rustoleum. Turned out pretty good, and touch up is quick and easy.
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/16816075?a...l5=pla&veh=sem
That is the stuff I used on my bumpers etc. Works Great!
That is the stuff I used on my bumpers etc. Works Great!
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Originally Posted by MrAnderson1987
Yea looks good, I got the rustoleum but whats this self etching primer?
I believe that is correct at least, it's been a while since I dealt with this.
compliments of "Lost in NJ" over at hotrodders.com.......
"If you ask the manufacturer like I did you can get the correct answer.
Self etch primer is for metal that has not been etched by some other means. So if you are building a something and weld up some brand new sheets of the steel and do not want to sand them you use the self etch primer. The job of self etch primer is to make a good surface for putting the next layer of paint on to the metal. If the metal is already a good surface for a direct to metal paint then you do not need (and do not want) an etching primer.
The etch primer has been improperly thought of as a way to prevent corrosion. I had the local dupont paint store guy try to sell it to me for that purpose.
For most of what we are doing the better solution is to etch the metal. Either with various chemical methods such as Pickle X or metal pre-treats the paint companies sell. We can also sand the metal or even better sandblast. Then put down a nice layer of epoxy to seal the metal from moisture.
Of course do not forget to use a proper wax/ grease remover before painting."
Basically it allows smooth metal, (good for the oh so hated galvanized metal) to take a good primer coat that will allow the top coats to adhere right. in my experience, using self etching primer on bare unsanded metal, makes the top layers much less likely to flake off.
"If you ask the manufacturer like I did you can get the correct answer.
Self etch primer is for metal that has not been etched by some other means. So if you are building a something and weld up some brand new sheets of the steel and do not want to sand them you use the self etch primer. The job of self etch primer is to make a good surface for putting the next layer of paint on to the metal. If the metal is already a good surface for a direct to metal paint then you do not need (and do not want) an etching primer.
The etch primer has been improperly thought of as a way to prevent corrosion. I had the local dupont paint store guy try to sell it to me for that purpose.
For most of what we are doing the better solution is to etch the metal. Either with various chemical methods such as Pickle X or metal pre-treats the paint companies sell. We can also sand the metal or even better sandblast. Then put down a nice layer of epoxy to seal the metal from moisture.
Of course do not forget to use a proper wax/ grease remover before painting."
Basically it allows smooth metal, (good for the oh so hated galvanized metal) to take a good primer coat that will allow the top coats to adhere right. in my experience, using self etching primer on bare unsanded metal, makes the top layers much less likely to flake off.
Last edited by NCMetalMechanic; Oct 19, 2012 at 08:35 PM.
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Originally Posted by NCMetalMechanic
compliments of "Lost in NJ" over at hotrodders.com.......
"If you ask the manufacturer like I did you can get the correct answer.
Self etch primer is for metal that has not been etched by some other means. So if you are building a something and weld up some brand new sheets of the steel and do not want to sand them you use the self etch primer. The job of self etch primer is to make a good surface for putting the next layer of paint on to the metal. If the metal is already a good surface for a direct to metal paint then you do not need (and do not want) an etching primer.
The etch primer has been improperly thought of as a way to prevent corrosion. I had the local dupont paint store guy try to sell it to me for that purpose.
For most of what we are doing the better solution is to etch the metal. Either with various chemical methods such as Pickle X or metal pre-treats the paint companies sell. We can also sand the metal or even better sandblast. Then put down a nice layer of epoxy to seal the metal from moisture.
Of course do not forget to use a proper wax/ grease remover before painting."
Basically it allows smooth metal, (good for the oh so hated galvanized metal) to take a good primer coat that will allow the top coats to adhere right. in my experience, using self etching primer on bare unsanded metal, makes the top layers much less likely to flake off.
"If you ask the manufacturer like I did you can get the correct answer.
Self etch primer is for metal that has not been etched by some other means. So if you are building a something and weld up some brand new sheets of the steel and do not want to sand them you use the self etch primer. The job of self etch primer is to make a good surface for putting the next layer of paint on to the metal. If the metal is already a good surface for a direct to metal paint then you do not need (and do not want) an etching primer.
The etch primer has been improperly thought of as a way to prevent corrosion. I had the local dupont paint store guy try to sell it to me for that purpose.
For most of what we are doing the better solution is to etch the metal. Either with various chemical methods such as Pickle X or metal pre-treats the paint companies sell. We can also sand the metal or even better sandblast. Then put down a nice layer of epoxy to seal the metal from moisture.
Of course do not forget to use a proper wax/ grease remover before painting."
Basically it allows smooth metal, (good for the oh so hated galvanized metal) to take a good primer coat that will allow the top coats to adhere right. in my experience, using self etching primer on bare unsanded metal, makes the top layers much less likely to flake off.
Sand, self etching primer, paint, clear coat. Spend the extra dollar or two on wheel paint and wheel primer and they'll last a lot longer. Just about every auto store sells it.
If you've got a local truck wash it's not a bad idea to hit them with the engine/tire degreaser at one after you sand them then scrub them with some dish soap and water. Definitely want to make sure grease and such is gone.
If you've got a local truck wash it's not a bad idea to hit them with the engine/tire degreaser at one after you sand them then scrub them with some dish soap and water. Definitely want to make sure grease and such is gone.
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