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Old 08-09-2013, 05:52 AM
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Hey! I am considering ordering some halo headlights for the XJ and was wondering if anyone has had any issues with them. I know they draw alot more heat than the terrible stock assemblys. any issues with melting connectors or things of that nature? They will be from JC Whitney and are made by sylvania. Thanks!
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As long as your connectors are clean and have some dielectric grease on them you will have zero issues.
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Originally Posted by 4.slow95
Hey! I am considering ordering some halo headlights for the XJ and was wondering if anyone has had any issues with them. I know they draw alot more heat than the terrible stock assemblys. any issues with melting connectors or things of that nature? They will be from JC Whitney and are made by sylvania. Thanks!
Read this about lighting. At a bare minimum, you need to do the supplemental harness, which is a 45 minute job with simple hand tools. The XJ wiring is woefully underengineered.



Originally Posted by xjsnake https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/headlights-151196/index2/ - post2069179https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/headlights-151196/index2/ - post2069179
Upgraded headlights the legal (ish) way...

1) Get a new headlight harness.

You can make your own
http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoHeadlightLoom.htm

Or you can buy one:
http://www.eautoworks.com/Putco-H4--...s-PRD7540.aspx

The eautoworks harnesses used to be quite cheap until everyone on this forum started recommending them and the price was raised accordingly.

You can pick them up for $29.99 here
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csd/full.aspx?Page=48 part number 36-3580. It says it fits a chevy blazer but it's the same as the eautoworks harness and I'm running the LMC harness in my XJ.

There are other more expensive options for pre-made harnesses but I'm not super familiar with those.

2) Upgrade to H4 housings

There are two types of regulations pertaining to headlight housings. There are DOT approved housings which are legal in the US and there are Ecode lights which are European housings and aren't legal in the US although many people use them as they are considered superior housings due to the light pattern.

DOT
Rampage
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_501.htm
IPF
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97017_1600.htm
Delta
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm
Hella
http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_02.htm

Ecode
Autopals (look on ebay for Autopal 200mm H4 housing)
Hella
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=744
Cibie
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/

Personally I won't buy housings that have plastic lenses, I much prefer glass but your mileage may vary.

3) Get good bulbs

Some of the above housings come with bulbs included with them. I tend not to recommend bulbs as the choices are extremely vast and everyone has their own preferences as to color and wattage.

4) Aim your headlights properly!

I can't say enough how much improperly aimed headlights annoy me on the road plus you are wasting all that time and effort to upgrade the lighting if you don't aim the light where it does the most good...
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78017

5) On HID Lights

I do not recommend HID's for use in XJ's... People will show links to cheap HID kits and "Projectors" off of ebay and other sites which will give you a lot of light and will also throw a lot of light in all directions making you very visible to police and possibly blinding other drivers.


Read
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html for a well written description of the problems with HID kits.

When using HID's you need a true projector housing. I'm sure people will chime in and say they run HID's and ebay housings and have had no problems but I'm describing the legal (ish) way.

If you want to go down the road of HID's, take a look at what true projector housings cost
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/6054-200mm...-p/xd-6054.htm
http://www.brightheadlights.com/hid-upcoming.htm
or you can buy the projectors and retrofit them into existing housings if you are so inclined:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/hea...9/#post1391556

There are a myriad of options available to consumers with the limiting factor being cost. One can spend under $100 and have significantly upgraded their lighting or they can spend $1000 and upgrade their lighting more. It's all in how much money you want to spend.

For those wanting to do some of these upgrades but not necessarily all I would do them in the following order:
1) Headlight Harness (major improvement even with sealed beams)
2) Housings and Associated Bulbs
3) Hid and Projectors (Cost prohibitive to do correctly)


For installation of the harness and housings see this excellent write up:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/my-h4-upgrade-114440/

Disclaimer: Always check your local and state laws as some places have more stringent lighting laws than others... I am in no way associated with any of the above companies and none of what I say should be taken as the absolute truth or only way to do things. Flame on...
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Thanks a lot. the HID side of things was never my forte. but to each their own. I just was to be able to see when we get monsoons like last night. I believe these will do the trick. Just wanted to make sure there werent any issues or common problems before I spent any money.
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Thanks a lot. the HID side of things was never my forte. but to each their own. I just was to be able to see when we get monsoons like last night. I believe these will do the trick. Just wanted to make sure there werent any issues or common problems before I spent any money.
Do the harness at a bare minimum.
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The harness with relays does make a difference in lighting trust me.
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Back when I was running a daily (early morning) newspaper route, I was running the Silver Star headlights. My harness was ok but I kept burning out the headlight switch and connector. If you just upgrade your harness and maybe run the lights on relays you'll be fine. If you do install relays, the lights will get power directly from the batter and a minimal amount of power will be going through the switch.
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The harness with relays does make a difference in lighting trust me.
Yes. Adding headlights that draw more current without doing the simple upgrade harness, which takes 30 minutes to install, is looking for failure of headlight switches and their connectors.

The harness alone yields between a 30% and 40% improvement with stock lamps.
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Originally Posted by 4.slow95
Hey! I am considering ordering some halo headlights for the XJ and was wondering if anyone has had any issues with them. I know they draw alot more heat than the terrible stock assemblys. any issues with melting connectors or things of that nature? They will be from JC Whitney and are made by sylvania. Thanks!
Yes. The headlight switch and connector are known to melt. Upgrade the harness to move the current away from it.

Really can't be said enough times lol. The XJ front lighting circuits look to be designed by someone who doesn't understand electricity.
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