Exactly. Forgive me for trying to head him in the direction of a quality longarm setup that is also affordable.

I dont have a problem with IRO. I've never ran it. and quite honestly I've never heard any complaints from customers. but I would never recommend it to someone online. and if you cant look at both those long arm kits and see that one clearly cant even be compared to the other in quality, you shouldn't be recommending long arm kits at all. so cool the attitude

It's all good fellas.

I'm not offended at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and favorite design/product.

I'm building 'em as fast as my schedule and parts availability allows....but I'm always accepting orders.

I can see the difference in the design. I'm not saying they're comparable. I'm saying they're both affordable longarm systems from reputable suppliers, and if that's what he's after then those are two he should look at. Its up to him (and his budget) to decide what route he wants to go

Then we are on the same page.

And you wouldn't want a triangulated front for road purposes

Blah, Blah, Blah......LOL.....I love this site!

I never said anything about road purposes.
I just said that unless you have a trinagulated setup then yes, you need a panhard.

Huh?
Why do you believe that to be true?

A properly built double-triangulated system will keep the axle where it should be at all times and at any speed.

Keyword being properly.
Ive seen a couple TJs with triangulated f/r crusing at 70 down the interstate no problems.

Because it has to be done properly. You can't cut any corners. It would also b hard to fabricate a 3 link triangulated suspension I'd think.

My comment about needing a panhard bar unless you had a triangulated setup..

I was saying that because you said a 3 link plus panhard..like there is any other way of doing it lol

Yes it is.

With a triangulated front your axle will travel strait up and down when looking at it from the front of the vehicle. Your drag link travels in an arc which will induce side to side movement throughout its cycle. This will turn your steering knuckles and you guessed it.... Give you horrible bump steer.

You have to run a full hydro steering setup on a front end that is triangulated.

Reason it can't be done on the road? DOT requires a mechanical linkage from steering wheel to tires to be road legal.


That all being said. I would agree that SERIOUS>IRO hands down. If you want to go with a 3 link, then get the real deal. Don't settle for a poorly designed imitation system. Shell out the extra money and get a properly designed true 3 link.

Kris Froehlich

Wow, this site has vendor/vender bashing.....SWEET!

There is no bashing going on between vendors..