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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rikrdolevy
I have rough country 6.5 short arms, and no I havr not done any of that
I also knew this was going to be the answer before you even posted it, lol
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You can run short arms just fine with a 6.5" lift if you get the control arm drop brackets.
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At the expense of a small loss of clearance...I consider CADs a bandaid similar to transfer case drops. It improves a bad situation, but nothing will beat the long arm geometry.
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35s on stock gears is gonna suck, it's bad for mpg, hard on your motor and transmission, as it changes the rpms and shift points...I agree with dropping tire size, or regearing. Realize when you do regear you have to do front and rear. Gear sets front and rear, installed, is going to be a couple thousand on average. Dropping to 33s is easier on the pocketbook, and you can sell the 35s to recoup some of the cost.
So what u r saying is do not swap to 8.8(which would only cost me 400 cuz a friend of mine will charge only 100 to do the swap and the axle itself would cost 300) and drop to 33s.
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That's what I'm saying.

I'm also going to wager a guess that your buddy doesn't know what's involved in doing an 8.8 swap either...you do know that welding is involved, right? It's not a simple swap, you need to shave the perches and reinstall. You don't know enough about what needs to happen with this mod to even think about attempting it, lol...

I strongly recommend you start reading up on what needs to happen to do things right.
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BTW, 33s on stock gears is gonna suck too, just not as hard, lol....you really should regear to accommodate tire size.

Herein lies the problem with modifying, when you change one thing, you gotta change several other things as well to accommodate the change, and keep performance as close to stock as possible. It's a hard balance act, lol
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Originally Posted by roninofako
That's what I'm saying.

I'm also going to wager a guess that your buddy doesn't know what's involved in doing an 8.8 swap either...you do know that welding is involved, right? It's not a simple swap, you need to shave the perches and reinstall. You don't know enough about what needs to happen with this mod to even think about attempting it, lol...

I strongly recommend you start reading up on what needs to happen to do things right.
Yes I know that there is wielding involved, ive seen couple of videos on you tube and my buddy says he could do it. I just wanted to know if I wad buying the right 8.8 that will fit my Xj, but I appreciate all information you guys have provided. I just got confused as to why is it better to keep the 8.25, dro to 33s or regear when the whole 8.8 installation would only cost $400 all in all. I think only the 33s would cost more than $400. I am new to this, but i wanna enjoy building my jeep too.
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Originally Posted by roninofako
BTW, 33s on stock gears is gonna suck too, just not as hard, lol....you really should regear to accommodate tire size.

Herein lies the problem with modifying, when you change one thing, you gotta change several other things as well to accommodate the change, and keep performance as close to stock as possible. It's a hard balance act, lol
I think thats the fun part of building a jeep isnt it?
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Originally Posted by Rikrdolevy
Yes I know that there is wielding involved, ive seen couple of videos on you tube and my buddy says he could do it. I just wanted to know if I wad buying the right 8.8 that will fit my Xj, but I appreciate all information you guys have provided. I just got confused as to why is it better to keep the 8.25, dro to 33s or regear when the whole 8.8 installation would only cost $400 all in all. I think only the 33s would cost more than $400. I am new to this, but i wanna enjoy building my jeep too.
You keep throwing a price tag out there. Are you factoring in costs to regear?
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Just swapping in a 8.8 isn't going to solve anything, you'll be in the same boat, just with different oars, lol

The axle you want to swap in needs to be the same gear ratio as your front axle. The reason people do this swap is a slight strength gain over the 8.25, with built in disc brakes, and better aftermarket support for gears, lockers, etc..

Again, you need to start researching what's involved, what it costs, pros and cons of different setups, etc...

You can do a disc brake swap relatively easy and cheap for the 8.25. Upgrading to 29 spline axles requires a carrier change, which if you're going to do, might as well do gears too. And since you're doing the back, you gotta do the front at the same time. See how fast the prices are climbing? LOL

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I think thats the fun part of building a jeep isnt it?
It's also the expensive part, lol

None of this happens right away unless your wallet is deep enough to pay to make it happen right away. Also, if this is your only vehicle, get a bus pass, as all these mods take time, LMAO
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Also please realize I'm not trying to discourage you, I just don't want you to waste time and money.
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Originally Posted by roninofako
Just swapping in a 8.8 isn't going to solve anything, you'll be in the same boat, just with different oars, lol

The axle you want to swap in needs to be the same gear ratio as your front axle. The reason people do this swap is a slight strength gain over the 8.25, with built in disc brakes, and better aftermarket support for gears, lockers, etc..

Again, you need to start researching what's involved, what it costs, pros and cons of different setups, etc...

You can do a disc brake swap relatively easy and cheap for the 8.25. Upgrading to 29 spline axles requires a carrier change, which if you're going to do, might as well do gears too. And since you're doing the back, you gotta do the front at the same time. See how fast the prices are climbing? LOL
I see what you are saying, I would also need rk change gears in the front as well, I will do some research.
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Originally Posted by Rikrdolevy
I see what you are saying, I would also need rk change gears in the front as well, I will do some research.
Go look at the cost alone for the 8.8 swap kit... not cheap.
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Go look at the cost alone for the 8.8 swap kit... not cheap.
Im trying to search for all the parts id need ro buy to do a proper swap but can't seem to find anything that goes straight to the point, do you have any info?



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