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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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The situation is that everyone has their own idea about HID's. Wether it's how they look, which brand, or how bright. This leaves me confused, and worse off than when I started the search. I do know that the brightest that I would consider going would be 6000K, probably 5300. If you have HID's yourself and know a brand/style that is good, please make a suggestion!
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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that number refers to he color, not the brightness, the lower the number, the more yellow tho color. higher numbers are more blue
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiberius
that number refers to he color, not the brightness, the lower the number, the more yellow tho color. higher numbers are more blue

It refers to the color as well as brightness. Brightest HID's are around 5 or 6000k, if I remember right. Those are the bright white ones.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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6k is pure white. Thats what i got on mine, didnt want any blue tint at all on a cherokee. Ill try to snap some beam shots if i remember.


edit: and yes, the K values are the colors. Not the brightness
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 04:03 AM
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Im running some **** *** (german) 8k's on my heep right now... I forget the brand name but I love'em..... oh and find a good set of projectors or HIDS are useless and annoying to other drivers
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Trickynick89
Im running some **** *** (german) 8k's on my heep right now... I forget the brand name but I love'em..... oh and find a good set of projectors or HIDS are useless and annoying to other drivers
its funny cus you think ppl dont know wtf a **** is
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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my shop sells tview kits with full harnesses and i recommend 6k or 8k, anything less is too yellow anything more is goofy colored, i have installed over 100 sets of these and the kits i sell are actual hi-lo-kits not a halogen low or high all hid and full digital ballast.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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ddmtunning has a great product im running thier 4500k with the 35watt ballisct

its almost a pure white light and its super bright

and the cost was great and if it ever breaks or you have problems send it back and they will send you a new one no questions asked
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Forget the brand of mine but there 8000k low with high beams, upgraded hd wire harness from LMC. I had started with cheap black projectors from ebay which have no shroud on them and sucked so for the mean time im running autopal euro's not the e-codes, until i get real projectors.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Ddmtuning.com I think are the best. Plug and play kits and a warrenty. I have two kits one 5k in my car and 8k In The jeep and wish they where a little brighter.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Biceps McRipped
It refers to the color as well as brightness. Brightest HID's are around 5 or 6000k, if I remember right. Those are the bright white ones.
That is incorrect. The output specification is called lumens. "6000 K" is referred to as color temperature and has nothing to do with the output in lumens.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blasto9000
That is incorrect. The output specification is called lumens. "6000 K" is referred to as color temperature and has nothing to do with the output in lumens.
It's related in a sense though.
The brightest light gets is around 4300-5000k
Anything lower or higher in kelvins will be darker.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1996XJSport
It's related in a sense though.
The brightest light gets is around 4300-5000k
Anything lower or higher in kelvins will be darker.
Output and color temperature are unrelated. An HID does not operate like a filament lamp, where when you reduce current the light gets dimmer AND changes color temp. An HID is a current-operated device, which means if you reduce current it gets dimmer but does not change color temp.

So if you have a 3000 K HID running at 10 amps and a 6000 K running at 5 amps, the 6000 K will have roughly half the luminosity. Higher color temp, yes, but lower output.
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and human eye is sensitive to yellow light color. so it better to have 4300K to 5000K. 3000 has a yellow tint on bulbs. I dont understand why.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gmv93
and human eye is sensitive to yellow light color. so it better to have 4300K to 5000K. 3000 has a yellow tint on bulbs. I dont understand why.
The yellow tint is probably just to filter the spectra of the HID capsule to make it appear 3000 K rather than using a genuine 3000 K gas mix. (The 3000 to 4800 K gas mixes are $$$$.)



Actually, the human eye's spectral sensitivity is heavily biased in green to orange.

Sunlight is 5500 K to 6500 K depending on whose viewing standard is used (there are several accepted viewing standards). None of the eBay HID vendors state which viewing standard they use for their color temperature ratings, and even if they did, I wouldn't believe them. The Chinese tend to make up specs as they go along, and all the inexpensive HID kits come from generic Chinese sources.

The cheaper HID capsules also tend to change color temp as they age, usually going to a "hotter" color temp. At my current job I evaluated a generic HID capsule (for a personal project) and after about 30 hours it went up over 1,000 K in color temp. The human eye can easily perceive a 100 K shift.
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