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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Glass >>> plastic. Duh! Lol. I challenge you to this. Next time you are driving in a semi-high traffic area, look at the car's headlights around you. I bet you'll see some nasty, cruddy, disgusting-looking yellowed lenses on some cars. Then ask yourself, do you want yours to look like that, down the road?
You are right in that, I'm not gonna disagree. But glass will decrease the quality of the light and it's a hell of a lot harder to work with. I now challenge you to find me any car with stock projectors and a glass lens. There is a reason they use plastic themselves. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I would just prefer plastic. Will make the retrofit easier to work with and you can clean plastic lenses or you can buy like a 3M product to prevent that.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Mine are gonna be around double the price of his. I'm not sure what products he is using, but the parts alone for mine are around 375$ plus new headlight housings. If I'm gonna do this, I'd rather know that I'm using good products and I can customize this the way I want a little more than he can offer
Can't wait to see the final product. His could of been double the price if he would of used better electronic. I'm planing on replacing them anyway. I just did not want to attempt the retro fit nor do I need drl.

What ballast and bulbs are you looking at? I have my eye on the Morimoto 3Five series.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by XJmike0122

Can't wait to see the final product. His could of been double the price if he would of used better electronic. I'm planing on replacing them anyway. I just did not want to attempt the retro fit nor do I need drl.

What ballast and bulbs are you looking at? I have my eye on the Morimoto 3Five series.
Are morimoto 3fives waterproof, what is so good about them? Where can I find the kit with everything included? Also what's the difference between the D2S kit and the AMP kit?

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Serenity
You are right in that, I'm not gonna disagree. But glass will decrease the quality of the light and it's a hell of a lot harder to work with. I now challenge you to find me any car with stock projectors and a glass lens. There is a reason they use plastic themselves. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I would just prefer plastic. Will make the retrofit easier to work with and you can clean plastic lenses or you can buy like a 3M product to prevent that.
How does it decrease the quality of light? I would think that plastic would do that moreso than glass! And the reason car manufacturers use plastic is because everything is plastic now. It's cheap.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Serenity
There is a reason they use plastic themselves.
Because plastic is cheaper to manufacture than glass... A clear glass lens will not affect the light output. Search for diamond cut clear lens.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Are morimoto 3fives waterproof, what is so good about them? Where can I find the kit with everything included? Also what's the difference between the D2S kit and the AMP kit?
Yeah the 3fives are waterproof. Watch this.


I believe DS2 are for vehicles that originally had HIDs and AMP are for non HID vehicles. The retrofit source has everything pertaining to HIDs that you will ever need and it good quality stuff not cheap junk.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by XJmike0122

Yeah the 3fives are waterproof. Watch this. Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94LFpvGGnE

I believe DS2 are for vehicles that originally had HIDs and AMP are for non HID vehicles. The retrofit source has everything pertaining to HIDs that you will ever need and it good quality stuff not cheap junk.
So us with Cherokees would get the AMP? Could I just buy the housing from Lead foot and install the 3fives in them, would they fit.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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How does it decrease the quality of light? I would think that plastic would do that moreso than glass! And the reason car manufacturers use plastic is because everything is plastic now. It's cheap.
Look, I'm not here to debate which is better. I asked for help on locating some plastic lens housings and thats what I'd like. It's what I want. It's what I prefer. You can use glass on your truck.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ccooper1234

Are morimoto 3fives waterproof, what is so good about them? Where can I find the kit with everything included? Also what's the difference between the D2S kit and the AMP kit?
You can find everything u need right here except new headlight housings.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by XJmike0122

What ballast and bulbs are you looking at? I have my eye on the Morimoto 3Five series.

That's what I got. Haven't heard any bad things about them
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Serenity

You can find everything u need right here except new headlight housings.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com
OK I'll probably order the HID kit in a few weeks once I find out if they will fit in the housings from Lead Foot.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Look, I'm not here to debate which is better. I asked for help on locating some plastic lens housings and thats what I'd like. It's what I want. It's what I prefer. You can use glass on your truck.
I'm not sure where you have looked but these are plastic.
Amazon.com: Pilot Performance Lighting   WI-HL5A H4 Conversion 6054 Head Lamp, D.O.T/SAE, Color Box: Automotive Amazon.com: Pilot Performance Lighting WI-HL5A H4 Conversion 6054 Head Lamp, D.O.T/SAE, Color Box: Automotive
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by XJmike0122

Thanks XJmike
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Thanks XJmike
No problem and I also saw that someone else was saying plastic makes for a cleaner cutoff line.

Edit: Was looking back on the first page looks like DieselD posted the same light first.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Serenity-I am also a forum member of hidplant.com

Plastic is preferred for two reasons.

1. The plastic technology allows a more clear curt-off line for those doing proper projector HID conversions.

2. The only way you can take apart the glass housing is soaking it in gasoline to dissolve the glue. Yikes. I had a set, and tried to heat and pry them, glass breaks at the edge. I chucked them and bought the Pilots. Cooked them at 250 for a few minutes, came apart perfectly. I am retrofitting Maxima OEM projectors in my XJ Pilot housings. Almost done.

I wish glass was better for it, because they don't yellow. Just buy a good brand, use a UV resistant wax (a few coats) and you'll be fine...
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