Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Durango Gear Box / ZJ Steering Bar Swap Afterthoughts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 20, 2012 | 08:55 AM
  #76  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

not true. All the durango boxes have 3 bolt attachment like ours. If you got a box that has 4 bolts, it's not out of a durnago
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2012 | 08:58 AM
  #77  
Bcs_customs's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L I6
Default

Originally Posted by dukie564
not true. All the durango boxes have 3 bolt attachment like ours. If you got a box that has 4 bolts, it's not out of a durnago
Dukie please shed some light, whats the difference between plow and non plow?
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2012 | 09:23 AM
  #78  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

physically - nothing. From what I understand the ratio is what is different - fixed vs variable, and slightly lower than the stock XJ's.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 10:49 AM
  #79  
Ianf406's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,353
Likes: 1
From: Missoula, MT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Golen 4.6 Stroker, AFE Headers, 62mm TB, 24 LB Injectors, Brown Dog kit, HF Cat, 3" Exhaust
Default

Hey Dukie I called the JY looking for one.. they said 70$... is that reasonable? I see the re-maned ones online are around 150
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 11:00 AM
  #80  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

are they pulling it? I'd pay $70 just to avoid the pain of pulling it myself lol - it's a *****
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2012 | 12:47 PM
  #81  
Ianf406's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,353
Likes: 1
From: Missoula, MT
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Golen 4.6 Stroker, AFE Headers, 62mm TB, 24 LB Injectors, Brown Dog kit, HF Cat, 3" Exhaust
Default

Originally Posted by dukie564
are they pulling it? I'd pay $70 just to avoid the pain of pulling it myself lol - it's a *****
Yea they are gonna pull it. The closest u-pull it type JY is over an hour away. Alright thanks. Thanks for the write up as well. Good stuff.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:32 PM
  #82  
steven72192's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Illinois
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Hey Dukie my box blew up yesterday and I was reading your post great write up you answered all my questions except I'm confused about the spacer idea, what your saying us if your get the xj spacer you don't need to use washers?
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2012 | 02:44 PM
  #83  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

no the spacer is designed to be used with the stock box. The durango box has a larger diameter, so you will need to use a couple washers to add some extra clearance, regardless of which spacer you use.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2012 | 09:59 PM
  #84  
steven72192's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Illinois
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by dukie564
no the spacer is designed to be used with the stock box. The durango box has a larger diameter, so you will need to use a couple washers to add some extra clearance, regardless of which spacer you use.
So do I need to buy a spacer for the Durango box?
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2012 | 10:32 PM
  #85  
Atmos's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,387
Likes: 10
From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by steven72192
So do I need to buy a spacer for the Durango box?
not necessarily. but it is recommended. the spacer alone will not make the durango box fit, you still need washers.

here is a stock spacer. broken on purpose by me to see how strong it was. it took practically no effort...

Name:  174.jpg
Views: 738
Size:  110.3 KB

this is a JCR 3/16 spacer and my steering box bent it after a couple months of use. not sure how but it happens

Name:  246.jpg
Views: 677
Size:  76.6 KB

and if you look closely you can see 2 small gold washers in between the box and the red spacer. thats all you need (for all 3 bolts) to make the durango box fit. they were a pain I recommend having an extra pair of hands around for the swap

Name:  172.jpg
Views: 1062
Size:  132.2 KB

Last edited by Atmos; Dec 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2012 | 07:56 AM
  #86  
steven72192's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Illinois
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Atmos

not necessarily. but it is recommended. the spacer alone will not make the durango box fit, you still need washers.

here is a stock spacer. broken on purpose by me to see how strong it was. it took practically no effort...

this is a JCR 3/16 spacer and my steering box bent it after a couple months of use. not sure how but it happens

and if you look closely you can see 2 small gold washers in between the box and the red spacer. thats all you need (for all 3 bolts) to make the durango box fit. they were a pain I recommend having an extra pair of hands around for the swap
Thanks this helped a lot and its just called a gear box spacer When I look it up to buy it?
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2012 | 07:56 AM
  #87  
steven72192's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Illinois
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Also had another question what year zj tie rod will i need I have a 98 xj but what to upgrade to the stronger tie rod
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2012 | 10:04 AM
  #88  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

Originally Posted by steven72192
Thanks this helped a lot and its just called a gear box spacer When I look it up to buy it?
Steering Box Reinforcement/Spacer
http://www.c-rok.com/sb.html
http://www.jcroffroad.com/mm5/mercha...uct_Code=STSPC

Originally Posted by steven72192
Also had another question what year zj tie rod will i need I have a 98 xj but what to upgrade to the stronger tie rod
Any year ZJ (1993-1998) with the v8 engine.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2012 | 04:01 PM
  #89  
Marks2000XJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,048
Likes: 0
From: Georgia
Year: 2004
Model: Grand Cherokee (WJ)
Engine: 4.0 Inline 6
Default

Hey Dukie,

After reading your write up I am going to get the Durango steering box to replace my trashed stock one. I tried adjusting the bolt on the top. Steering itself tightened up but the wheels still feel like they float from side to side. I said screw it and am about to re-do the entire front end.

I had a question about the spacer. I just ordered one from Iron Rock Off Road to replace the stock one. I assume I will still have to use a couple of washers on it to get the spacing correct?

Also, what am I looking for as far as spacing is concerned? How do I tell if I have everything installed correctly and spaced correctly? I know it is a direct bolt on but beyond that I want to make sure everything is lined back up correctly and I don't know how to do that.

Hope that makes sense.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2012 | 07:12 PM
  #90  
dukie564's Avatar
Thread Starter
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 15,197
Likes: 18
From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

Yea you'll still need the washers. Two on each bolt was enough for me. You need to space it out far enough that you can bolt it up without it hitting the framerail
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:28 PM.