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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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As my XJ is now, I don't have any front recovery points. I have a boa extreme front bumper, but it didn't come with any hooks or d-rings.
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So I like the way the bumper looks and it offers plenty of protection so instead of fabing an entirely new bumper I had this idea. The bumper is attached to the frame via a T shaped bracket on each side as seen on the box in this pic
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I was thinking I could fab some L shaped d-ring mounts, bore two holes in them and bolt them to the bumper using the outside set of bolts on each side. Additionally, the bumper needs mounting brackets that extend further back on the frame to be able to handle the stress of getting a yank. That would be a simple matter of fabing some new heavier and longer mounts. My questions is, do you think this system will hold up to the rigors of yanking or will it just peal the d-ring mount tab off the bumper?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Very nice!
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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whats the thickness of the mounting brackets? pics of the tie ins mounted? they don't look to long so plating the frame fails for 12-16" would help.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 05:17 AM
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This is how they are now. I know I will have to fab new mounts.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 05:24 AM
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Oh and their 1/4" thick. Id probably make the new mounts out of 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Rustys Off Road sells the D-Ring mounts I bought them for my front bumper and had them welded on. Very heavy duty look on his web site under fab or tabs.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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Looks like it was made to tuck a winch.

Why not get a winch?
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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I wouldn't risk pulling you by the bumper with how it's mounted now. You need better tie ins that include the steering box bolts.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Looks like it was made to tuck a winch.

Why not get a winch?
When I do a winch, it will be a multi-mount system as I have been in situations where forward wasn't an option. Besides I still want some recovery points.

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I wouldn't risk pulling you by the bumper with how it's mounted now. You need better tie ins that include the steering box bolts.
I realize the mounts will have to be redone.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
Rustys Off Road sells the D-Ring mounts I bought them for my front bumper and had them welded on. Very heavy duty look on his web site under fab or tabs.
I don't want to weld anything to the bumper as it has a nice powder coating on it. If bolting on d-ring mounts isn't going to be strong enough i'll just sell this one and fab a new one.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Yeah, I'd say get some frame tie in brackets. Use those in addition to the mounts for the bumper. As for D-ring mounts, I don't think that bumper made to have them mounted onto it.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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I'm starting to lean towards just fabing a new one this winter.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleXJ
I'm starting to lean towards just fabing a new one this winter.
May be a good idea. Especially on cherokees because of the Uni-body making sure the d rings are well made and braced is pretty important. I've seen some homebrew engineering d ring mounts get ripped off on the trail and the end result is never good. It wasn't pretty.
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZINGGG
I wouldn't risk pulling you by the bumper with how it's mounted now. You need better tie ins that include the steering box bolts.
^ THIS
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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Thanks all for the input
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