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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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has anybody put atf in a 5speed gear box ? today i thought i would change output transfer case seal and fluid and check/or change trans fluid . so i pull the trans fill plug and nothing so i pull the drain and its 3quarts red atf . has anybody done this or is the po not so bright.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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all the 5 speeds i've owned all took atf, i think i'd check with what the trans called for though.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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yes, he was dumb, it takes gear lube... specifically GL-3. the AX15 loves RP synchromesh.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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not all of the jeeps took gear lube. some did come with atf, your trans might not have been original. atf will make the trans shift smoother but the gear lube will quiet the trans down if its making any noise. you can run either.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
yes, he was dumb, it takes gear lube... specifically GL-3. the AX15 loves RP synchromesh.
You're dumb.

Synchromesh will damage the synchros and other parts sure to the chemical compounds.

You should be putting 10w30 or the recommended fluid.

Do NOT use synchromesh.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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I know of a bunch of guys running 10w30 in their AX5's and AX15's issue free, I ran Syncomesh in my Ax15's in my TJ and YJ
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
I know of a bunch of guys running 10w30 in their AX5's and AX15's issue free, I ran Syncomesh in my Ax15's in my TJ and YJ
To be clear, its not going to explode the instant you shift.

But it will cause excessive wear.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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any one buy a manual anymore?
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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I had such a problem trying to find out the correct fluid for my ax15 about a month or two ago, I searched all over the internet and couldnt find a clear response, and evyone said something different. I read somewere that syncromesh is great, except that it is gl-5 and it will wear away at bronze bushings in the transmission. Mopar has a fluid that is still gl-3 which is what SOME of them took. I never found a clear answer and used a pennzoil syncromesh I think, or the recomended weight of gear oil... I cant rember anymore. But tjats what I could gather that seemed reliable, call your local dodge/ jeep dealership would probly be your best bet or even a reputable transmission shop.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RJMuskett
I had such a problem trying to find out the correct fluid for my ax15 about a month or two ago, I searched all over the internet and couldnt find a clear response, and evyone said something different. I read somewere that syncromesh is great, except that it is gl-5 and it will wear away at bronze bushings in the transmission. Mopar has a fluid that is still gl-3 which is what SOME of them took. I never found a clear answer and used a pennzoil syncromesh I think, or the recomended weight of gear oil... I cant rember anymore. But tjats what I could gather that seemed reliable, call your local dodge/ jeep dealership would probly be your best bet or even a reputable transmission shop.
theres alot of "i thinks" and "i use", thats why I use manuals...
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by -Rudy-
You're dumb.

Synchromesh will damage the synchros and other parts sure to the chemical compounds.

You should be putting 10w30 or the recommended fluid.

Do NOT use synchromesh.
you know synchromesh is recommended for MTs that specify motor oil, right?
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 03:51 AM
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I use lucases synthetic gear oil in mine... love it... just takes FOREVER. to fill lol
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RJMuskett
gl-5 and it will wear away at bronze bushings in the transmission.
I had the same concerns back when I was fixing up my old VW bus. After many hours of research, it turns out modern GL5 will not actually corrode or wear bronze bushings more than GL4 (factory recommendation for my bus). I filled it up with GL5, daily drove that for 2 years. Still shifted like new when I sold it.
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