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Old 09-20-2012, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselD

I'm shooting for 3" lift with ride quality in mind. I don't think CA drop kit will help me...
You are mistaken. When you lift a vehicle the control arms angles change. This change in angle is what causes the front to ride worse. The CAD kit drops the rear mounting point of all the control arms so they back at the factory angle. Now they Jeep should ride more like it did stock. CAD brackets make a huge difference in ride quality. That's really all they're for...

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Argh.......My ability to choose the right words to search sucks! Can someone please help be learn what parts from a TJ lift will work on an XJ? PLEASSSSSSSSSSSE!!
Well, let's see:

The steering wheel, the seats, the wheels and tires, the front axle, etc...

What exactly are you looking for?
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Originally Posted by dukie564

I advise you drill out the center pin to 3/8" or larger. You'll need a carbide bit (or a masonry bit) for this. It'll be a stretch to get 5" out of a bastard pack though...
Well what do you suggest then? I wasn't sure if lift shackles were a good idea or not?
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There's nothing wrong with lift shackles. Just make sure you get your angles right.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2

You are mistaken. When you lift a vehicle the control arms angles change. This change in angle is what causes the front to ride worse. The CAD kit drops the rear mounting point of all the control arms so they back at the factory angle. Now they Jeep should ride more like it did stock. CAD brackets make a huge difference in ride quality. That's really all they're for.
I know how they work. Lol.

But at 2.5-3" would they even benefit me that much? Thought they were more like a 4" plus kinda deal.
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Ah, For some reason I was reading 4"s.

You can run them at 3"s but you really only need them at 4... like you said. So yeah, marginal gains.
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I got a budget boost, spacers and shackles I have some free time tomorrow I was wondering if anyone can ballpark the instalation time, thanks
Its a stock xj if that changes anything
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On a stock Jeep from New York that's never been apart... I figure about 2 and a half days.

On a lifted Jeep that's been apart several times... around 30 minutes.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
On a stock Jeep from New York that's never been apart... I figure about 2 and a half days.

On a lifted Jeep that's been apart several times... around 30 minutes.
Dang yea its got the ny underbody alright haha at least its the weekend
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Originally Posted by ORourkester

Dang yea its got the ny underbody alright haha at least its the weekend
Today is Thursday man.
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The main thing I'd be cautious about is removing the shackle bolts. I can almost promise that the bolt is seized in the bushing sleeve. That means new bushings in the rear of the leaf springs.

You'd better start spraying that thing down now, hope for the best and start early in the morning.
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Originally Posted by bhennessee1
Today is Thursday man.
Starting tomorrow haha I consider that weekend territory
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
The main thing I'd be cautious about is removing the shackle bolts. I can almost promise that the bolt is seized in the bushing sleeve. That means new bushings in the rear of the leaf springs.

You'd better start spraying that thing down now, hope for the best and start early in the morning.
Alright thanks for the help!
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Go ahead and buy a case of beer. And tylenol..youll need it. My installation time for my first rig 3 inch (stock 88) was about 12 hours..completely by myself. Ive never hated jeeps so bad. I didnt break any bolts but some stuff was just a PITA. My 2nd lift was going from a 3 inch to a 4.5 in my 98.. install time was about 8 hours...and another big PITA. But after you finish youll be pleased.
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Originally Posted by mgclark6
I hear DPG off road is a good place to buy OME. Anyone have experience with them? Can I ask that here? I'd love feedback from people who have Old Man Emu. Is the ride worth the extra $$? I'm looking at the 2.5" ultimate system they sell. I'm building a DD that will see little off road for my daughter. 2001 XJ 2dr 4X4 auto stock on 31x10.5s so far. I started a build page but progress will be slow. Thanks in advance. Newbie Mike from Ohio.
My buddy has the 3.5 OME super ultimate kit from DPG. Very good kit and good service from Dirk there. Rides quite nice.
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
Ah, For some reason I was reading 4"s.

You can run them at 3"s but you really only need them at 4... like you said. So yeah, marginal gains.
Haha yea it was early right?

Anyways, I'm thinking I should definitely keep it at 2.5" now. I know at 3" LCAs are gonna off enough to need longer ones. Not a problem. But if its enough to hurt ride quality and new longer/adjustable won't improve the angle any, it won't improve ride quality. Damn. This is why I'm starting the research now... !


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