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so im building a junkyard lift kit and eventually it will be up to 4", but for now its going to sit at around 2", my stock springs are terrible and i wanted to put the lift springs on before getting the shocks on so i wouldnt have to wait for them. I wont be offroading like this before i get the full lift set up but would it be fine for regular driving? the longest i would go like this would be maybe a month
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From: Poulsbo,Wa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
You mentioned drive shaft....
Thanks
Why you say this? I think people who feel this way are the ones who put some severe abuse to thier lifts. I don't see anything wrong with RC and I have had several kits on a few of my vehicles including my F350 and no issues. Now if your referring to a kit that will withstand some serious off roading then I would say there are far better suited kits for this type of abuse. And RC may not be one that I would chose to do some serious off roading in.
I would be interested to hear your about your claim more and validity of such.
I would be interested to hear your about your claim more and validity of such.
The driveline vibration is typically caused when you lift the vehicle throwing the geometry of the driveline off. Putting a drop case into it normally will bandaid the problem. SYE kit is the preferred method but I have a 3" lift on my 89 with zero driveline issues and no drop kit or sye. However; I expect that when I go to the 4.5" kit I will certainly need one. I would not suspect that your problem is caused becuase of the drop kit but instead something else. Did you have it aligned once you were done installing?
Why you say this? I think people who feel this way are the ones who put some severe abuse to thier lifts. I don't see anything wrong with RC and I have had several kits on a few of my vehicles including my F350 and no issues. Now if your referring to a kit that will withstand some serious off roading then I would say there are far better suited kits for this type of abuse. And RC may not be one that I would chose to do some serious off roading in.
I would be interested to hear your about your claim more and validity of such.
I would be interested to hear your about your claim more and validity of such.
My Rough Country Long Arm kit I purchased used seems pretty beefy to me and I don't see any reason to doubt its functionality. Perhaps I will prove that once I take my rig on the trails. Like others I got a smoking deal on it so I was not going to pass just because of the name. I'm not saying there are not kits more surperior over others but what I find is those folks where money is no object to them will pay for the high end products so to speak and then bash down on all the other cheaper alternatives. Again, I would like those to show proof that Rough Country is garbage. Back up your claims is all.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
My Rough Country Long Arm kit I purchased used seems pretty beefy to me and I don't see any reason to doubt its functionality. Perhaps I will prove that once I take my rig on the trails. Like others I got a smoking deal on it so I was not going to pass just because of the name. I'm not saying there are not kits more surperior over others but what I find is those folks where money is no object to them will pay for the high end products so to speak and then bash down on all the other cheaper alternatives. Again, I would like those to show proof that Rough Country is garbage. Back up your claims is all.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
I really don't feel like writing yet another essay on why Rough Country is garbage.
Pros:
Cheap (since you get half of a lift kit)
Cons:
Quality Control
Product quality
Finish quality
Durability
Longevity of wear parts
They ****ing lie to their customers to make sales
Pros:
Cheap (since you get half of a lift kit)
Cons:
Quality Control
Product quality
Finish quality
Durability
Longevity of wear parts
They ****ing lie to their customers to make sales
Hey maybe you are all right about what you say or have had bad experiences with them. I have purchased a few different types of lifts from them for different vehicles and not once have any of my kits failed me. This will be my first jeep with Rough Country. The reason I had bought Rough Country was it was used kit for cheap. I wanted long arms and I got it. Sure I could have chosen many other types or brands but again it was offered used, in great shape and cheap!
My thought process of those who buy top end products will bash those who buy cheaper ones is simple. Folks with more money will buy what is known to be popular out there. Yes it may be proven to work well for those top dogs and therefore people swear by certain products. I can't count the # of times I have bought products that have a different name on it but same product and works just as good as the item that is marked up. It's like going to the dealer and paying for that Ford name on that product but you can go to the local auto store and buy the same damn thing with another name for a lot less. Works the same and is the same. Maybe that is not true with Rough Country.
All I'm saying is I have had "0" issues with any kits or products I have had with them.
My argument for you is this why would you work for a company that sells a crap product and put it on a customers vehicle? If I knew well in doubt that my company I worked for even if I did not own the company or have any say in the matter wasted peoples time and money, I would find a new company to work for. That is my reputation on the line and the last thing I would want is my name out there installing a crappy product that is going to fail on someone later down the road. So do you just install the product and then the average customer does not look you in the eye and ask you what you think about that particular product? People will pay what they want and want what they want but that is just bad business.
My thought process of those who buy top end products will bash those who buy cheaper ones is simple. Folks with more money will buy what is known to be popular out there. Yes it may be proven to work well for those top dogs and therefore people swear by certain products. I can't count the # of times I have bought products that have a different name on it but same product and works just as good as the item that is marked up. It's like going to the dealer and paying for that Ford name on that product but you can go to the local auto store and buy the same damn thing with another name for a lot less. Works the same and is the same. Maybe that is not true with Rough Country.
All I'm saying is I have had "0" issues with any kits or products I have had with them.
My argument for you is this why would you work for a company that sells a crap product and put it on a customers vehicle? If I knew well in doubt that my company I worked for even if I did not own the company or have any say in the matter wasted peoples time and money, I would find a new company to work for. That is my reputation on the line and the last thing I would want is my name out there installing a crappy product that is going to fail on someone later down the road. So do you just install the product and then the average customer does not look you in the eye and ask you what you think about that particular product? People will pay what they want and want what they want but that is just bad business.
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From: Poulsbo,Wa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
The driveline vibration is typically caused when you lift the vehicle throwing the geometry of the driveline off. Putting a drop case into it normally will bandaid the problem. SYE kit is the preferred method but I have a 3" lift on my 89 with zero driveline issues and no drop kit or sye. However; I expect that when I go to the 4.5" kit I will certainly need one. I would not suspect that your problem is caused becuase of the drop kit but instead something else. Did you have it aligned once you were done installing?
I don't know what an SYE kit is...can you point me in that direction?
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Okay there are more issues with this than just the RC lift. 6.5" lift with short arms is plain stupid. I wouldn't even go over 3" with short arms. the angles of the suspension are completely ruined. You want flatter angles with the control arms. I'm not sure if the control arms would even have any travel at all before bottoming on the coil buckets. Short arms create a terrible ride, bad flex, more stress on the factory control arm mounts, bad alignment, and will eat bushings.
Thanks for your feed back...New alignment , and just rebalanced tires. I'm pretty sure the vibration is in back...It is better since the rebalance. That's why I was wondering about bad tire wear from the tires being way out of balance. I don't know how long it was driven like that before I bought it.
I don't know what an SYE kit is...can you point me in that direction?
I don't know what an SYE kit is...can you point me in that direction?
This video should help but if you type in SYE for XJ on google it will show you numerous companies to buy one from. I honestly have no experience with them so I couldn't tell you what is good or what is bad.
Okay there are more issues with this than just the RC lift. 6.5" lift with short arms is plain stupid. I wouldn't even go over 3" with short arms. the angles of the suspension are completely ruined. You want flatter angles with the control arms. I'm not sure if the control arms would even have any travel at all before bottoming on the coil buckets. Short arms create a terrible ride, bad flex, more stress on the factory control arm mounts, bad alignment, and will eat bushings.
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Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Hey maybe you are all right about what you say or have had bad experiences with them. I have purchased a few different types of lifts from them for different vehicles and not once have any of my kits failed me. This will be my first jeep with Rough Country. The reason I had bought Rough Country was it was used kit for cheap. I wanted long arms and I got it. Sure I could have chosen many other types or brands but again it was offered used, in great shape and cheap!
My thought process of those who buy top end products will bash those who buy cheaper ones is simple. Folks with more money will buy what is known to be popular out there. Yes it may be proven to work well for those top dogs and therefore people swear by certain products. I can't count the # of times I have bought products that have a different name on it but same product and works just as good as the item that is marked up. It's like going to the dealer and paying for that Ford name on that product but you can go to the local auto store and buy the same damn thing with another name for a lot less. Works the same and is the same. Maybe that is not true with Rough Country.
All I'm saying is I have had "0" issues with any kits or products I have had with them.
My argument for you is this why would you work for a company that sells a crap product and put it on a customers vehicle? If I knew well in doubt that my company I worked for even if I did not own the company or have any say in the matter wasted peoples time and money, I would find a new company to work for. That is my reputation on the line and the last thing I would want is my name out there installing a crappy product that is going to fail on someone later down the road. So do you just install the product and then the average customer does not look you in the eye and ask you what you think about that particular product? People will pay what they want and want what they want but that is just bad business.
My thought process of those who buy top end products will bash those who buy cheaper ones is simple. Folks with more money will buy what is known to be popular out there. Yes it may be proven to work well for those top dogs and therefore people swear by certain products. I can't count the # of times I have bought products that have a different name on it but same product and works just as good as the item that is marked up. It's like going to the dealer and paying for that Ford name on that product but you can go to the local auto store and buy the same damn thing with another name for a lot less. Works the same and is the same. Maybe that is not true with Rough Country.
All I'm saying is I have had "0" issues with any kits or products I have had with them.
My argument for you is this why would you work for a company that sells a crap product and put it on a customers vehicle? If I knew well in doubt that my company I worked for even if I did not own the company or have any say in the matter wasted peoples time and money, I would find a new company to work for. That is my reputation on the line and the last thing I would want is my name out there installing a crappy product that is going to fail on someone later down the road. So do you just install the product and then the average customer does not look you in the eye and ask you what you think about that particular product? People will pay what they want and want what they want but that is just bad business.
You may have good ethics, but just because you do doesn't mean you can assume everyone does. You can't possibly be that naive. Many people will steal, rob, and kill. Do you really think companies are above putting cheap products on someones vehicle to make a dime? I've worked in shop environments before and there are many questionable things done to save a penny or to get a few extra dollars out of the customer. There are a lot of bad people out there who do not care.




