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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 01:24 PM
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Is there anything drastically different between the different headers available for the 4.0L besides possibly the build quality? To me they all look the same and not much different from the stock manifold. Any opinions on the matter are appreciated.
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Stainless steel, ceramic coating and better welds are usually why people buy headers from brands like Gibson versus ebay stuff.

The factory 4.0 manifold is often called a header - it's pretty good except when it comes to rust - They crack really easily which is why a lot of OE-spec replacements have flex joints.

I really like my Gibson. Fit like a glove.

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Stainless steel, ceramic coating and better welds are usually why people buy headers from brands like Gibson versus ebay stuff.

The factory 4.0 manifold is often called a header - it's pretty good except when it comes to rust - They crack really easily which is why a lot of OE-spec replacements have flex joints.

I really like my Gibson. Fit like a glove.
I'll never buy a ebay one again, refused to seal up. I think I've looked at Gibson before and liked what I saw.
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zacmac1003
Is there anything drastically different between the different headers available for the 4.0L besides possibly the build quality? To me they all look the same and not much different from the stock manifold. Any opinions on the matter are appreciated.
I bought the Banks Torque Tube when I did my build because my stock one was rusted to hell and I figured might as well change it when the motor was out. I definitely like the sound a lot more, I think it looks great, and the quality is awesome. I would venture to say I got a little more low end torque out of the deal, but not super huge gains. I did notice a difference though. Go for it
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000_silver_xj
I bought the Banks Torque Tube when I did my build because my stock one was rusted to hell and I figured might as well change it when the motor was out. I definitely like the sound a lot more, I think it looks great, and the quality is awesome. I would venture to say I got a little more low end torque out of the deal, but not super huge gains. I did notice a difference though. Go for it
Is that ceramic coated? Descriptions don't say.
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 06:19 PM
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I got an APN header from Summit Racing and it works great, much better than the factory design. Banks is overrated and overpriced.
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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For what you pay for the Banks or Gibson the returns are too small. The head flange on the ebay units are under spec. Once this is corrected there will be minimal reason to buy a big name. Upgraded motor mounts will resolve the cracking issue and is money better spent. I'm a fan of rustys offroad mounts.

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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 07:50 AM
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Ive been running an Ebay unit for a little over a year now. I think the one i bought is currently in the 40 dollar range. The flange was undersized but some tacked on washers will fix that issue. I can buy a lot of ebay headers for the cost of something like a Banks Torque tube.
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zacmac1003
Is that ceramic coated? Descriptions don't say.
I don't think it is, but really thats not necessary
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
I got an APN header from Summit Racing and it works great, much better than the factory design. Banks is overrated and overpriced.
That isn't offered on Summit any longer. With what they offer, Banks is the best option
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000_silver_xj
That isn't offered on Summit any longer. With what they offer, Banks is the best option
Here it is. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atp-101212/make/jeep
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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RT off road stainless header with stainless flange
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
Realized after I sent my last post that I was looking for my year, his 95 they do offer it.
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