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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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If you were going to go over the knuckle and that is all you were going to do on that end, I would get a drag link from the UK for a right hand drive XJ, flip that and use a tapered sleeve in the steering arms, use a V8 ZJ tie rod which would be flipped too and then just lower the track bar mount. Much simpler and cost effective I think

As far as steering stabilizers go, I haven't used one in years. If everything is tight with proper geometry and castor, you really don't need one. They put them on at the factory for a band aid in case things get a little loose
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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Scratch and sniff the **** out of what 4.3xj has to say, he's among the 1% that actually knows what he's talking about.

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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
If you were going to go over the knuckle and that is all you were going to do on that end, I would get a drag link from the UK for a right hand drive XJ, flip that and use a tapered sleeve in the steering arms, use a V8 ZJ tie rod which would be flipped too and then just lower the track bar mount. Much simpler and cost effective I think

As far as steering stabilizers go, I haven't used one in years. If everything is tight with proper geometry and castor, you really don't need one. They put them on at the factory for a band aid in case things get a little loose
UK drag link. Now that's an idea I never would have thought of. Thanks! And that works even better since I actually already run a v8 grand tie rod lol. I replaced the stock plastic straw tie rod like a week after I bought the jeep.

I'm thinking of getting the rough country long arm kit. It looks solid and fits in my budget.

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Scratch and sniff the **** out of what 4.3xj has to say, he's among the 1% that actually knows what he's talking about.
Scratch and sniff hahaha. Point taken and absolutely understood, but that's heckin funny.
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Old Aug 16, 2021 | 09:38 AM
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Scratch and sniff hahaha. Point taken and absolutely understood, but that's heckin funny.
I guess I am going to have to wear cologne from now on

One other thing. After you do that, you need to address the track bar, which Jeep universally under engineers. I would get everything but that done, mount whatever drop pitman arm you want. ZJ is a 1" drop. Then contact Mark at DetoursUSA. He can make you up a mount to drop the frame end whatever needs to be done. I haven't talked to him in awhile, but he used to do some custom work
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:32 PM
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So I'm in the middle of doing everything on here that we talked about. Adjustable control arms are in. Knuckles are drilled and the new tapered inserts are welded in. Come to find the "RHD" drag link I bought is literally the same part I'm taking off. So naturally the bend at the end goes the wrong way. To top it off I can't find any XJ drag links that are different. So I'm wondering. Can I use this?

https://www.quadratec.com/products/5...MaAnBaEALw_wcB

I know it's for a wrangler but it bends the right way and far as I know there aren't any differences in threading or the taper on the knuckles. Steering stabilizer might not fit but I'm not really that worried about that.

or better yet if you know where to source an actual RHD drag link let me know.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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If the bend is the same and the tie rod end oriented the same way, then no. But then again, it is not the right part
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
If the bend is the same and the tie rod end oriented the same way, then no. But then again, it is not the right part
That's the thing. On this wrangler part the bend is opposite when the tie rod is oriented upwards. So when I flip it, it would bend outward where the stock bar bends inward. So that part seems like it would work. I'm just wondering if y'all knew something I didn't on the rod ends or the collar threads that would be no bueno. Or overall length for that matter.
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Just looked a little closer at the link. Says it works for rhd MJs and XJs too.... I'm really tired
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What tapperd inserts did you use. You welded them in.

Why not weld up a steering track bar set up

https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/YLINK.html

Or

https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/R2237.html
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EvanM
What tapperd inserts did you use. You welded them in.

Why not weld up a steering track bar set up

https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/YLINK.html

Or

https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/R2237.html
Didn't go the 1 ton route due to budget honestly. And I'm not running the biggest tires in the world so I didn't think it would be necessary..

And I'm using these. The fit the stock TRE sizes perfectly.
https://www.tmrcustoms.com/products/...tj-lj-xj-zj-mj
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 09:06 AM
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Ok so you are putting stock steering over the knuckle. Im starting to understand. But barely as the stock steering in so many ways sux even on a stock rig.
if its bolted to the rig and in serviceable condition leave it alone while parts are gathered to upgrade as the need or want arises. It always does

Chrysler ran it till 2008 on the dodge pickups jeep has also gone away from it but not sure when they did
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EvanM
Ok so you are putting stock steering over the knuckle. Im starting to understand. But barely as the stock steering in so many ways sux even on a stock rig.
if its bolted to the rig and in serviceable condition leave it alone while parts are gathered to upgrade as the need or want arises. It always does

Chrysler ran it till 2008 on the dodge pickups jeep has also gone away from it but not sure when they did
Sorta yeah. It's a stock RHD drag link on a LHD vehicle. The tie rod is from a v8 ZJ. But yeah that's really the only difference from stock.
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 08:40 PM
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I see no advantage to zj otherecthan replacing wore outvstock parts
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Old Sep 17, 2021 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EvanM
I see no advantage to zj otherecthan replacing wore outvstock parts
For the drag link, no there isn't. But the tie rod is a different story. The stock xj tie rod is a hollow tube and is prone to bending and breaking. The v8 zj tie rod is solid.
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