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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by willsmysticcobra
Ok I may not "hate" this mod, but bored throttle bodies. Those few mm's really going to get you up that hill or give you 3-5 mpg gain?
So you don't want to squeeze every bit of mpg and power you can without serious overhaul?
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AoA
So you don't want to squeeze every bit of mpg and power you can without serious overhaul?
to be honest, I dont think they really do anything..... I came from a high performance mustang cobra backround , and I would love to see an XJ strapped to a dyno and a before and after with a slightly ported throttle body on there. I bet its suck a trivial gain for the 85 bucks people charge on here, the one gas fill up you could use the $85 on would be much more beneficial. Just sayin.
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by willsmysticcobra
to be honest, I dont think they really do anything..... I came from a high performance mustang cobra backround , and I would love to see an XJ strapped to a dyno and a before and after with a slightly ported throttle body on there. I bet its suck a trivial gain for the 85 bucks people charge on here, the one gas fill up you could use the $85 on would be much more beneficial. Just sayin.
I come from the same background. Im not wasting 90 bucks on a throttle body if it doesnt give me a real gain. Now if the motor was built so it needes more juice then thats a diff story
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xjchris
I come from the same background. Im not wasting 90 bucks on a throttle body if it doesnt give me a real gain. Now if the motor was built so it needes more juice then thats a diff story

Unless you're porting the runners on the intake manifold as well, you're going to see very little gain, if any at all. Even if you did a full port/polish on the head, intake, TB, you'd still probably see a max of 10-15hp out of that. Not worth it.


As for the "trash your nice XJ" conversation from a couple of pages ago... I bought my 98 with less than 178k miles on it. Interior is clean as can be, exterior had a couple dings but overall was decent. The first thing I did was lift it, went wheeling, ripped off the front fender flares (have yet to cut the fenders, but I will eventually). Now less than a year later it has scratches all over it from going through trails with trees/brush, has a couple more dings in it, has a little boo-boo on the front facia where I ran into a tree, etc. I don't even care.... I bought the thing to get me around in snow, and I bought it cheap. $1600 for a clean Jeep is not a big deal to me to go play with and beat up. I'll do whatever I want to it, because it's my car I don't care about. As long as it runs and drives, that's good with me. Soon the fenders will have tube fenders/flares on them, rock sliders on the rockers, new bumpers, etc. I fully intent to continue running into trees, getting scratched, and denting panels. I don't plan to sell the thing, and even if I did I could get more out of it now than I put into it. Win Win.

I looked at plenty of beat to crap Jeeps that would have been fine trail rigs, but I wanted something I could drive around without feeling like I was a driving something an Obama supporter could afford. There were 200,000 something of these made per year for a lot of years, the supply will not be running out anytime soon.

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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
I find it funny that so many of these "hated" mods are actually great products and some of the most beneficial things you can do to make a capable xj.
For example, "Angry Eyes", are extremely beneficial to the Jeeping community.
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2

For example, "Angry Eyes", are extremely beneficial to the Jeeping community.
Hahaha
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
For example, "Angry Eyes", are extremely beneficial to the Jeeping community.
Those and stickers. Hell, I bet my K&N stickers on the windows are netting me at least 15 horsepower.
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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I ****ing HATE "Angry Eyes".
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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ditto^
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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They were probably cool the first time someone did them.... And then sales of VHT nightshade doubled and it was all downhill from there.
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zimdogg
Unless you're porting the runners on the intake manifold as well, you're going to see very little gain, if any at all. Even if you did a full port/polish on the head, intake, TB, you'd still probably see a max of 10-15hp out of that. Not worth it.


As for the "trash your nice XJ" conversation from a couple of pages ago... I bought my 98 with less than 178k miles on it. Interior is clean as can be, exterior had a couple dings but overall was decent. The first thing I did was lift it, went wheeling, ripped off the front fender flares (have yet to cut the fenders, but I will eventually). Now less than a year later it has scratches all over it from going through trails with trees/brush, has a couple more dings in it, has a little boo-boo on the front facia where I ran into a tree, etc. I don't even care.... I bought the thing to get me around in snow, and I bought it cheap. $1600 for a clean Jeep is not a big deal to me to go play with and beat up. I'll do whatever I want to it, because it's my car I don't care about. As long as it runs and drives, that's good with me. Soon the fenders will have tube fenders/flares on them, rock sliders on the rockers, new bumpers, etc. I fully intent to continue running into trees, getting scratched, and denting panels. I don't plan to sell the thing, and even if I did I could get more out of it now than I put into it. Win Win.

I looked at plenty of beat to crap Jeeps that would have been fine trail rigs, but I wanted something I could drive around without feeling like I was a driving something an Obama supporter could afford. There were 200,000 something of these made per year for a lot of years, the supply will not be running out anytime soon.

Exalty my point about the throttle bodies.


And im one of the guys who bought a super nice xj and wheels it.
I bought my 88k mile 98 xj that was perfect for 5500. I took a dremel to the fenders, put big tires on it, took out the carpet (putting good carpet back in- sunk the dam thing) and i plain on keeping it maintained.






What i hate the most is all these guys on here who post about wanting to lift their xj and dont want to spend any money.

I HATE AAL. For christ sake people, build it right the first time. -somthing i wish i did. SHould have never bought the rustys shocks.
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xjchris
What i hate the most is all these guys on here who post about wanting to lift their xj and dont want to spend any money.

I HATE AAL. For christ sake people, build it right the first time. -somthing i wish i did. SHould have never bought the rustys shocks.
nobody likes spending more money than they have to and it's hard to understand which parts you need when you're first getting into it. you don't really know how hard you want to wheel it, long term budget, how long the parts will actually last, how to distinguish quality parts vs. crappy ones and why it's a good idea to spend extra money in certain areas. we all learn eventually
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
nobody likes spending more money than they have to and it's hard to understand which parts you need when you're first getting into it. you don't really know how hard you want to wheel it, long term budget, how long the parts will actually last, how to distinguish quality parts vs. crappy ones and why it's a good idea to spend extra money in certain areas. we all learn eventually
You must have AAL's. lol
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
You must have AAL's. lol
damnit you caught me. lol no I didn't mean to quote the AAL part
Old Oct 30, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
nobody likes spending more money than they have to and it's hard to understand which parts you need when you're first getting into it. you don't really know how hard you want to wheel it, long term budget, how long the parts will actually last, how to distinguish quality parts vs. crappy ones and why it's a good idea to spend extra money in certain areas. we all learn eventually
Well maybe those people should research before they buy?



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