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Old 03-21-2013, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
I'm sure the OP does the difference between Settling and sagging.
Seems to me he was asking for opinions. I gave him mine...
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Originally Posted by ta2tony

Then it might be camera angle. On my screen, measuring from the bottom of the picture to the bottom of each of your tires results in a .5mm drop, front to rear. Measuring from the top of the picture to the roof results in only a .2mm drop, front to rear.

Its not exact, but shows that either the jeep or the camera is on an angle. Regardless, these rough measurements would lead me to believe your XJ is sitting pretty close to level. It looks in the picture (and probably real life) as though the rear is squatting because the rear wheel well is not as large or high as the front.

The front well sits 1/2" higher in the front on a stock jeep to begin with, so based on your numbers at worst your rear is about 1/2" low. I'd say thats a symptom of settling more so than sagging. Again, I think it looks about how it should, but if it bothers you put a 1" lift shackle on it.
I appreciate all the thought and info. I will look at it some more and post some pics.

If I went with shackles, is boomerang the "go too" shackle. Also I have access to a water jet so does anyone have any designs or layouts they will give up or pm me
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Originally Posted by warthog
I appreciate all the thought and info. I will look at it some more and post some pics.

If I went with shackles, is boomerang the "go too" shackle. Also I have access to a water jet so does anyone have any designs or layouts they will give up or pm me
No problem. The other thing in that pic that gives it away is if you compare the white roof line of the house in the background to either the roof line of the XJ or rockers. Its probably at a 2 to 3° angle. I did precision measurement for 5 years so my eyes catch that sort of thing pretty quick.

The other thing to do would be measure from the center of your wheel to the bottom of the flare. This is a quick and dirty way to determine lift, stock is 17.5 front and 17 rear. Again, needs to be on level ground.

The boomerang shackles are to prevent the shackle from hitting the rear of the shackle mount box. If this isn't a problem for you they're not necessary but won't hurt anything. Personally I will probably go with the RC adjustable lift shackle. Its a pretty decent value IMO. Also search for the "chevy drop shackle" on here. Its like $35 from the local parts store and will give you about the lift you're after...
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
I'm sure the OP does the difference between Settling and sagging.
Anyone saying get an extended shackle, you do know that will put more stain on the leafs and have them bend worse. On newer springs they are good but as springs soften they will bend. Ask me how I know
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
Anyone saying get an extended shackle, you do know that will put more stain on the leafs and have them bend worse. On newer springs they are good but as springs soften they will bend. Ask me how I know
If your springs are sagging and in poor condition (like my stock springs currently) then yes. However, if the "sagging" he has noticed is just from his springs settling as they wear in this is not the case. I don't think his springs are sagging, but thats why I asked for him to measure center of wheel to flare. That'll tell us more.
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In all honesty your "sagging" is hardly noticeable unless you ask someone to stare at it for 5 minutes.

Beat the crap out of those leaf springs until the tire really has no flex room anymore, and then just get new leafs when you're good and ready. There's no need to waste your money on band aids. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Lift shackles are terrible and will strain your leafs unless you have relocators,just buy the relocators
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Originally Posted by 123456bmx
Lift shackles are terrible and will strain your leafs unless you have relocators,just buy the relocators
That is so far from correct, a proper length lift shackle wont hurt a damn thing.

This new fad about relocation brackets being necessary is getting very old, as is this new mentality that everyone should be running 3" of lift no matter what size tire they want to run. Yes, relocation brackets are a good thing and helpful, but your leaf springs arent going to explode or randomly invert if you put them on without relocation brackets. And yes, a LCOG setup is awesome, but not the only correct way to lift your jeep. The only reason the shackles will invert the springs is if they're the crappy sagged out stock springs which dont have the much arch to them in the first place. Even then it wont be that bad. Hell my stock springs were completely flat for 3 years and my jeep never randomly combust.
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Originally Posted by 123456bmx
Lift shackles are terrible and will strain your leafs unless you have relocators,just buy the relocators

Yea. Wrong.
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If it was me I would lower the front by an inch to match the rear.
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Originally Posted by 123456bmx
Lift shackles are terrible and will strain your leafs unless you have relocators,just buy the relocators
Relocators are used to correct shackle angle to help with travel. If a quality setup with correct lenght leafs puts your extended shackle at 45degrees there is no need or benefit from relocators. I have them only because my crappy leafs are too short.
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I appreciate all the info, I will think about it and tell y'all what I decide
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It isn't that noticeable but if it bugs you that much go with some new shackles as stated
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Not having proper bumpstops can also be rough on springs, bottoming out or just overloading can make them sad
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