Cherokee Chat General non-tech Cherokee chat
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ

a jeep way of fixing some rust

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 11, 2012 | 12:38 AM
  #1  
daedricjeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: indiana
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default a jeep way of fixing some rust

for humour purposes ( i was taking off the plastic on the back for a rougher look/i hate plastic on the outside of cars)

Name:  381237_3663616510902_13716484_n.jpg
Views: 32
Size:  38.9 KB



Afterward i used a grinder wheel and cut out all the rust so now it looks like this:
Name:  523854_3753595080310_1566452813_n.jpg
Views: 27
Size:  12.1 KB
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2012 | 07:57 AM
  #2  
jbsjunk's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,630
Likes: 3
From: Hudsonville, MI
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 5.0
Default

Here's the right way to do a cut and fold. Less of a chance to fill the interior with mud/dirt.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/c...t-way-1007865/
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2012 | 05:12 PM
  #3  
daedricjeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: indiana
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

hmm thats why i get some mud in the cargo area now

im a country boy man i didnt really look into this just grabbed the grinding wheel and a spraypaint can, problem (mostly) solved haha
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2012 | 06:41 PM
  #4  
Drewjharper1900's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 3
From: Tampa Fl
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

Your problem is solved until your unibody startes to come undone at the pinch welds. Unless you want **** to start coming undone, you need to reinforce that area. Theres already been some damage done due to it already being week from the rust.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2012 | 08:57 PM
  #5  
zombie jeep101's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,613
Likes: 0
From: Summerville, South Carolina
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

What are you talkin about? All he did was cut the body a little
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 06:02 AM
  #6  
Drewjharper1900's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 3
From: Tampa Fl
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

Theres pinch welds within that rear quarter that give the back unibody support. When the rust/him cutting took away those welds, it took away the structural integrity of the rear which will let the rear of the body flex and eventually start breaking other pinch welds. Thats why when you do a rear cut and fold, you need to rivit or weld the peices together to give back some of that structure.
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 02:58 PM
  #7  
zombie jeep101's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,613
Likes: 0
From: Summerville, South Carolina
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Oh
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 05:46 PM
  #8  
Dan91's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,295
Likes: 0
From: Williston, North Dakota
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Drewjharper1900
Theres pinch welds within that rear quarter that give the back unibody support. When the rust/him cutting took away those welds, it took away the structural integrity of the rear which will let the rear of the body flex and eventually start breaking other pinch welds. Thats why when you do a rear cut and fold, you need to rivit or weld the peices together to give back some of that structure.
I had an old XJ that had that entire portion rusted out, pulled carpet up and I could see the ground/gas tank through my rear cargo area too. Point being is that it was separated at many points. It was fine, hatch shut fine, never "fell apart". Now, I'm not saying it won't fall apart in an accident or something, but under normal driving conditions it's gonna be fine.
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 08:59 PM
  #9  
Drewjharper1900's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 3
From: Tampa Fl
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

Under normal driving conditions, yeah it would probably be fine. But most of us on here put alot of stress on the unibody so thats what i was basing it off of. I wasent saying that it was literally going to fall apart. Just that having that area cut out deffently weakens it.
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 11:51 PM
  #10  
Dan91's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,295
Likes: 0
From: Williston, North Dakota
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Drewjharper1900
Under normal driving conditions, yeah it would probably be fine. But most of us on here put alot of stress on the unibody so thats what i was basing it off of. I wasent saying that it was literally going to fall apart. Just that having that area cut out deffently weakens it.
Fair enough, I just didn't want the guy to worry too much.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2012 | 01:33 AM
  #11  
daedricjeep's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: indiana
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

point of this post was a little joke, ya kno, 'see some rust, cut it off'. if you look at the rust especially what i've got to work with in the center, there is no 'cut and fold' opportunity - it was all rusted out. while it may make a hard impact to the rear less structurally strong, i dont intend to use it like that (hitting things) and hence cutting out the rust did exactly what i needed it to do:

it removed the falling rust and all the spreading rust (look at the middle pic). Now it is cut away and repainted so rust will no longer be spreading from this portion. as an extra, i had a can of truck bed liner that i used to really seal off the rust spreading by using that all around.

its been a successful project for what im aiming for. your other ways are good advice for others though, i wasnt really recommending anyone do this to their car

Last edited by daedricjeep; Nov 13, 2012 at 12:33 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
LiamLikeNeeson
Jeep Builds
18
Jan 1, 2024 02:25 AM
twofrenchbraiddlady
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
15
Sep 1, 2015 02:13 PM
jeepnewbie44312
Cherokee Chat
18
Sep 1, 2015 10:54 AM
John T
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
18
Aug 31, 2015 12:41 PM
Uncoiled
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
6
Aug 27, 2015 02:37 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:22 PM.