Originally Posted by investinwaffles

Yeah, the JK is a much newer platform, and auto engineers really sucked *** until the mid 2000's (in my opinion)

Simple things like undercoating toughness, bushing material, door hinges, electronics, etc. That said I would probably never own a JK. If I wanted something nice to drive every day I would get a something with good gas mileage (like a diesel Jetta or something)

Originally Posted by Kris smith

So recently I have gotten a nice jk dropped in my lap for a smoking deal. So I have taken it. My Cherokee is sitting idle waiting for me to sell it. In the mean time I have joined a forum for the jk crowd as this is not the place for them and what I have found is absolutely astonishing. No one there makes their own equipment everyone buys bumpers and sliders and all that jazz and you are deemed sup par if you build your own. They praise body tub mounted "sliders" and frame mounted some how deminish "ground clearance". And my home made sliders that mount to the frame were ruled stupid. I Dont Know about y'all but if sliders can hold the entire weight of the vehicle with out bending or doing damage they are working properly. They also generally give you **** for asking a question because you question the dealers info on what they recommend. For example my rubicon has lockers I needed to re seal the diff covers. All I had was gl 5 gear lube with friction modifier. I just wanted to check to make sure that it would not cause any issues but I was already pretty confident it wouldn't as I run the stuff in my xj with lunch box lockers. But jeep dealer said it NEEDS the modifier or will chatter. But that is not true as there is no clutches on the lockers. And I was crucified for not taking jeep at their word. So long story short I miss this place dearly. I miss the help I miss the diy mentality. The run what ya brung style most here have. Just wanted to let y'all know that this is the best jeep forum I've ever been a part of. Thank you for that guys y'all hVe helped me a ton over my three xjs.

Originally Posted by emptypockets

The nice thing about the JK is being able to just head out and go explore. Some days when I'm running errands out of town, I'll drive back to town completely offroad. It's a fun vehicle and does everything I ask of it.

Originally Posted by Martlor13

Haha I had an experience with a jk owner today. I stayed at a hotel last night for a meeting and had trouble with a loose bolt that was hard to reach and when I got to it I couldn't turn it with the tools I brought. I saw a piece of pipe in the trash can from the construction their doing so I got it to help turn the bolt. Well when I was getting the pipe, a guy walks up and asks what I was doing. I explained and said I needed to use the pipe as a cheater pipe. He gave me a weird look and then said I should just take it to the dealer down the road. He then proceeded off on his brand new lifted jk.

Originally Posted by carbuff

Nice. Not your average jk, thats for sure.

Originally Posted by emptypockets

Has nothing to do with being a JK owner. I've dealt with a lot of people in general who have no clue how to work on vehicles.