Doors off an XJ?
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Doors off an XJ?
Alright so I have done a bunch of research on taking the doors off of an XJ. Some say it will cause damage to the body because it is a uni body and the doors play a big role in the structural stability of the rig, others say the damage would be so minor you wouldn't even notice. What is your opinion?
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Alright so I have done a bunch of research on taking the doors off of an XJ. Some say it will cause damage to the body because it is a uni body and the doors play a big role in the structural stability of the rig, others say the damage would be so minor you wouldn't even notice. What is your opinion?
05-20-2014, 09:14 PM
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Everyone knows if you take your doors off your unibody will fold in half like a taco...LOL
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If the doors were an integral part of the integrity of the uni-frame construction, don't you think they would be a ***** to open and close all the time?
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A lot of people said it will fold in half, but I see a ton of people do it without a roll cage and they have no problem
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Thats the issue with taking them off. The frame will bend and tweak a little bit and make it a pain in the *** to open and close
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The problem with taking them off is not the uni body twisting its the hinges that cause them to be a pain to open and close. The hinges tend to pull away from the body and twist because they have been weekend by being cut and the constant on and off with the doors. Just take a bfh pound them back throw a weld on and enjoy going doorless from time to time
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The problem with taking them off is not the uni body twisting its the hinges that cause them to be a pain to open and close. The hinges tend to pull away from the body and twist because they have been weekend by being cut and the constant on and off with the doors. Just take a bfh pound them back throw a weld on and enjoy going doorless from time to time
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Whoever started this myth needs to stick their head back in the sand and stop with the mindless face noise.
It is a load of ****. Here's why:
That's the striker where the door latches. People are running around spouting off the - quite frankly appalling - notion that somehow a piece of sheet metal hung loosely enough that you can move it in place when it's properly latched will somehow contribute to structural rigidity.
This is somewhat akin to saying that if you break a rib, your spine will snap! Nothing changes other than the squishy bits inside are more vulnerable.
"Well the door didn't move when it was new!"
That's because the hinge pins weren't worn and the weather gasket holds the door in place. Yes that's right... a little strip of neoprene.
Damn really dude? I guess I should make sure I get in and out of my Jeep with the door closed, lest I want my frame bent.
Jesus... I didn't think I was THAT overweight.
The process you describe is normal for a Jeep XJ with uniframe construction. That's right: It's not a unibody.
A caveat of this design is that physical forces are offloaded from the uniframe into the body. Over time metal fatigues and the welded assembly flexes more easily. With stress and age (and certainly rust) the assembly can and does permanently warp. Regardless of whether or not there's a 70 pound meat shield dangling off of the side.
If anything removing your doors should improve the health of the A and B pillars as there won't be any heavy crap trying to rip holes in the bottom half. However if you roll your XJ there's nothing stopping the roof from smashing your face in, either.
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It is a load of ****. Here's why:
That's the striker where the door latches. People are running around spouting off the - quite frankly appalling - notion that somehow a piece of sheet metal hung loosely enough that you can move it in place when it's properly latched will somehow contribute to structural rigidity.
This is somewhat akin to saying that if you break a rib, your spine will snap! Nothing changes other than the squishy bits inside are more vulnerable.
"Well the door didn't move when it was new!"
That's because the hinge pins weren't worn and the weather gasket holds the door in place. Yes that's right... a little strip of neoprene.
Jesus... I didn't think I was THAT overweight.
The process you describe is normal for a Jeep XJ with uniframe construction. That's right: It's not a unibody.
A caveat of this design is that physical forces are offloaded from the uniframe into the body. Over time metal fatigues and the welded assembly flexes more easily. With stress and age (and certainly rust) the assembly can and does permanently warp. Regardless of whether or not there's a 70 pound meat shield dangling off of the side.
If anything removing your doors should improve the health of the A and B pillars as there won't be any heavy crap trying to rip holes in the bottom half. However if you roll your XJ there's nothing stopping the roof from smashing your face in, either.
Cheers
05-20-2014, 10:47 PM
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Whoever started this myth needs to stick their head back in the sand and stop with the mindless face noise.
It is a load of ****. Here's why:
That's the striker where the door latches. People are running around spouting off the - quite frankly appalling - notion that somehow a piece of sheet metal hung loosely enough that you can move it in place when it's properly latched will somehow contribute to structural rigidity.
This is somewhat akin to saying that if you break a rib, your spine will snap! Nothing changes other than the squishy bits inside are more vulnerable.
"Well the door didn't move when it was new!"
That's because the hinge pins weren't worn and the weather gasket holds the door in place. Yes that's right... a little strip of neoprene.
Damn really dude? I guess I should make sure I get in and out of my Jeep with the door closed, lest I want my frame bent.
Jesus... I didn't think I was THAT overweight.
The process you describe is normal for a Jeep XJ with uniframe construction. That's right: It's not a unibody.
A caveat of this design is that physical forces are offloaded from the uniframe into the body. Over time metal fatigues and the welded assembly flexes more easily. With stress and age (and certainly rust) the assembly can and does permanently warp. Regardless of whether or not there's a 70 pound meat shield dangling off of the side.
If anything removing your doors should improve the health of the A and B pillars as there won't be any heavy crap trying to rip holes in the bottom half. However if you roll your XJ there's nothing stopping the roof from smashing your face in, either.
Cheers
It is a load of ****. Here's why:
That's the striker where the door latches. People are running around spouting off the - quite frankly appalling - notion that somehow a piece of sheet metal hung loosely enough that you can move it in place when it's properly latched will somehow contribute to structural rigidity.
This is somewhat akin to saying that if you break a rib, your spine will snap! Nothing changes other than the squishy bits inside are more vulnerable.
"Well the door didn't move when it was new!"
That's because the hinge pins weren't worn and the weather gasket holds the door in place. Yes that's right... a little strip of neoprene.
Damn really dude? I guess I should make sure I get in and out of my Jeep with the door closed, lest I want my frame bent.
Jesus... I didn't think I was THAT overweight.
The process you describe is normal for a Jeep XJ with uniframe construction. That's right: It's not a unibody.
A caveat of this design is that physical forces are offloaded from the uniframe into the body. Over time metal fatigues and the welded assembly flexes more easily. With stress and age (and certainly rust) the assembly can and does permanently warp. Regardless of whether or not there's a 70 pound meat shield dangling off of the side.
If anything removing your doors should improve the health of the A and B pillars as there won't be any heavy crap trying to rip holes in the bottom half. However if you roll your XJ there's nothing stopping the roof from smashing your face in, either.
Cheers