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look on pirate to see what people are running for links.Originally Posted by xjfan2979
I was advised by blue torch and ballistic fab not to use .120 wall for my rear 4 link they said it wouldn't be strong enough they suggested 1 1/2 .250 for the uppers and 1 3/4 .250 for the lowers. I have everything else I need to start this build including 14 in FOA coilovers but the link material and what size to use is what's holding me up.
did you ask the guys at ballistic what they are running on their buggy?
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If you don't want to weld then bolt the plate in, just more cost and work.Originally Posted by xjfan2979
yes its true xj's dont have a true frame because it is a unibody,but still im not gonna weld 1/4 inch brackets to a 16 gauge unibody.
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Deaver leafs,shackle relocation brackets and call it good.will flex like mad and be a lot more stable. coils 4 link kits are expensive,a lot of fab work and most who do it install a rear sway bar system like currie sales.
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Thats why you get the pieces yourself instead of buying a "kit" Originally Posted by builder459
coils 4 link kits are expensive,a lot of fab work and most who do it install a rear sway bar system like currie sales.

sway bars are used if your running on the street.
deaver springs are more expensive than BUILDING and 4 link kit
can i see how much it cost you to build your rear 4 link?
or how much it cost you do buy your fancy deaver springs? then ill compare it to how much my 4 link parts cost
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sway bars are used if your running on the street.
deaver springs are more expensive than BUILDING and 4 link kit
can i see how much it cost you to build your rear 4 link?
or how much it cost you do buy your fancy deaver springs? then ill compare it to how much my 4 link parts cost
All the 4 link rears marketed for the xj require welding.if you already have good rear leafs,just buy some shackle relocation brackets or fab them yourself.i have 2 friends that have the rock krawler 4 linked rear 1 installed a currie sway bar on it and the other wants to,for street driving that is.if it's a dedicated trail rig then no need.how much lift and what leafs and what size shackle are you running currently.Originally Posted by sandaddik2
Thats why you get the pieces yourself instead of buying a "kit" 
sway bars are used if your running on the street.
deaver springs are more expensive than BUILDING and 4 link kit
can i see how much it cost you to build your rear 4 link?
or how much it cost you do buy your fancy deaver springs? then ill compare it to how much my 4 link parts cost
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Watch the video,this guy was going to 4 link. he installed shackle relocation brackets and decided not worth it lol.
great example of leaf spring flex with a little work,, enjoy.
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i know of a SAS'd Toyota out here running deaver springs in the rear thing flexes insane.
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Theres kits out there for it. Staangs fab has a kick *** one and the arms are guaranteed for life, not that you'd ever need to use that warranty with how ridiculously strong it is.
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there is absolutely nothing wrong with leafs, yes fix the shackle angle problem and youll be happy if your just after more flex.
one of the advantages to a 4 link that you cant get with new leafs and shackles is that you can stretch the wheel base, and you simply cant make leafs ride like a link set up. if you could then the ultra 4 guys would run leafs on their buggies.
if you dont want to stretch it and you dont mind slowing down for whoops then just change the shackle angle imo
one of the advantages to a 4 link that you cant get with new leafs and shackles is that you can stretch the wheel base, and you simply cant make leafs ride like a link set up. if you could then the ultra 4 guys would run leafs on their buggies.
if you dont want to stretch it and you dont mind slowing down for whoops then just change the shackle angle imo
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its most likely the shackle angles that make it flex good, its not the brand of springs. my dads 30 dollar jy chevy springs on his yota will flex better than my xj with a long arm kit and re coils. the sticker on the part doesnt matter in most cases.Originally Posted by n_csmith
i know of a SAS'd Toyota out here running deaver springs in the rear thing flexes insane.
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True, but to my knowledge, that is not always the main reason. Rear swaybars in combination with link suspensions are used to force the front to flex as well, instead of having the rear do all the work. This is especially popular with the use of air shocks in the back.Originally Posted by sandaddik2
sway bars are used if your running on the street.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I have been lead to understand in my time over on pirate.
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i don't know if he had deaver brand for sure i just know he crawled 3/4 way, then pulled his limiting strap and went even further i think i have a pic of it somewhere.... My buddy in this pic is over 6' but you are right its all about shackle angle and size i guess looking at the pic now i see his are huge.

He actually now that i remember has a leaf welded to his frame that his shackle is attached to so basically the shackle is attached to leafs on both ends..don't know what thats called, but it flexes like mad.

He actually now that i remember has a leaf welded to his frame that his shackle is attached to so basically the shackle is attached to leafs on both ends..don't know what thats called, but it flexes like mad.
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I believe that is called a "buggy leaf" setupOriginally Posted by n_csmith
He actually now that i remember has a leaf welded to his frame that his shackle is attached to so basically the shackle is attached to leafs on both ends..don't know what thats called, but it flexes like mad.